SANDOG, I thought I was the only person that read "A TOUGH TRIP THROUGH PARADISE". A very intersting read. I have read that the Sharpes model 1868 carbines in 50-70 Gov't was given by the US government to many wagon drivers, buffalo hunters, settlers, ect and ammunition was free at the fort if used for buffalo hunting and Indian killing. Apparently the US government wasnt to concerned about being politically correct in those days. I fired a factory round of 50-70 a few years back,that was made in the 1870's. It worked pefectly, lots of power.