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m141a
03-15-2004, 01:58 PM
Good luck shined on me today :D
I picked up a 336RC in 35 rem. for ....get this.....are you ready
$75.00 :D :cool: :D
It's in about 90% condition, straight stock and a lyman peep sight on the gun. bore is bright/ rifling strong and the bluing is strong, but there is some wear from handling as the gun was made in 1952.
This is my first 35rem. What's it shoot like? I have a 38-55, so if its like that it's a pussycat. Is it an overlap of the 38-55 in the power department?
I hope to get to the range with it this weekend, but they are callin for snow tomorrow in NJ- 8 inches of snow. :mad:
thanx in advance for the help.
Chris~
Landngroove
03-15-2004, 03:32 PM
Good luck shined on me today :D
I picked up a 336RC in 35 rem. for ....get this.....are you ready
$75.00 :D :cool: :D
It's in about 90% condition, straight stock and a lyman peep sight on the gun. bore is bright/ rifling strong and the bluing is strong, but there is some wear from handling as the gun was made in 1952.
This is my first 35rem. What's it shoot like? I have a 38-55, so if its like that it's a pussycat. Is it an overlap of the 38-55 in the power department?
I hope to get to the range with it this weekend, but they are callin for snow tomorrow in NJ- 8 inches of snow. :mad:
thanx in advance for the help.
Chris~ I have a newer 336C in .35 Remington. I shoot 200 grain bullets at about 2000 F.P.S., velocity. I reload my own with Hornady bullets. The .38-55 Winchester reloading Data I have shows a 220 grain bullet, at 1700 F.P.S. velocity, (maximum) This is also a Hornady bullet, and the data is from the Hornady manual. The .35 Rem. is a rimless case originally designed to be used in early Reminton Semi's, and pump model rifles. It uses a .358" bullet. It is a hard hitting deer sized game cartridge. Many say it is better than the .30-30. My Hornady manual says the .38-55, which has a rimmed case, and a .375" bullet. compares to the .35 Rem, .30-30 Win., and the .32 Win. Sp., in performance. I do not shoot a .38-55, so I can give you no personal comparison. Landngroove.
Duckbill
03-15-2004, 04:22 PM
Congratulations m141a,
That's a great deal on a great gun. You'll love the 35. If you reload, you'll really enjoy experimenting with the different 35 loads.
naumann
03-15-2004, 07:47 PM
m141a,
You should give $75 to your local food bank or soup kitchen as a guilt offering for "stealing" that 35 Rem. :-0 !
No doubt about it, you scored.
Last fall I hunted my 1972 Marlin in 35 Rem for the first time. Took a young-of-the-year antelope (small) at about 40 yds. and a forkhorn mule deer at nearly 200 yds. with Remington factory, 200 gr., Core-Lokt ammo. Very effective, one-shot performance on both animals.
Recoil feels about like a 30-30 to me. Sighted 2.5" high at 100 yds., the Rem. facotry ammo was about 7" low at 200. For someone who hunts on their feet (no bean field or sendero sniping towers) the 35 Rem. is effective on deer sized game.
naumann
03-15-2004, 07:49 PM
PS - I haven't tried it myself, but I feel certain that the 35 Rem. will shoot through snow without discernable deflection. :p
big medicine
03-15-2004, 08:35 PM
Man, why cant I ever find a deal like that?
Harry Snippe
03-16-2004, 06:19 AM
Great find ! :D :D mine is two years younger and needed to pay three hundred canadain more. the reciever bluing was gone from being carried and the stock finsh gone. A lilltle rub with oil fixed that.
I load the 200 gr. RCBS lead for the range and 180 speer for the bush.
You find you will love this little rifle, if not there are many of us that will take it from you at a profit. ;)
Happy[/B]
m141a
03-16-2004, 12:46 PM
I plan on keepin it as it's my only "big bore", short of the 38-55. i just sold my timber carbine [win.] 444 cause it thumped like a mule on steroids. I may have a chance to pick up a Marlin 444, but the present owner wants like $450...too much in my book.
Thanks for all your fine comments...pics to follow!!!
I plan on keepin it as it's my only "big bore", short of the 38-55. i just sold my timber carbine [win.] 444 cause it thumped like a mule on steroids. I may have a chance to pick up a Marlin 444, but the present owner wants like $450...too much in my book.
Thanks for all your fine comments...pics to follow!!!
Reloading for the .35 really makes the cartridge shine, plus there are at least two companies right now that load for it, and you can select warm to wild loads factory offerings can't come close to.
If your .35 shoots the 150 grain factory stuff well, it's a great deer killer, and the 200 grainer does a real job on hogs and heavier deer.
Let me know if you'd like me to forward a list of loads for it, in case you roll your own or know someone that will do it for you, or just check out Conely Precision Ammo or Buffalo Bore.
Recoil is about 15 pounds with name brand, so it's a little more than a 30-30 but not much. Enjoy your lucky purchase you thief! :eek:
Sunday Creek
03-16-2004, 07:57 PM
You got a great deal. Mine is a 1956 model with the barrel cut down to 18 1/2". If you reload you have tremendous versatility with the .35Rem though the hotter loads will kick similar to the .444 (I'm talking the really hot loads, like what Buffalo Bore puts out.) For whitetail deer, black bear, and hogs the .35Rem is a great choice and I can't understand why some guys think they have to spend $900 for some new supermag when they can do like you did. Well, most of us won't get that good of a deal, but just the same, used .35s are often found for around $200 and the fast cycling action of a good lever gun is a joy to behold.
CEJ1895
03-17-2004, 05:33 AM
m141a - That's a great find! With that streak of luck I hope you picked up a powerball ticket too! :D Congrats! CEJ..
nfmMike
03-17-2004, 07:49 AM
m141a - I have an RC, it came with a Williams FP 94/36 type rear. The first time to the range sold me on this as my primary woods carbine. It does not have any more recoil than my .32 WS and the sights are MUCH better!
Congratulations! You will like it I am sure.
Sidespin
03-18-2004, 06:31 AM
I'll give you $100. right now, no questons asked.
m141a
03-18-2004, 06:53 AM
I'll give you $100. right now, no questons asked.
thanks, but no thanks...she's a keeper.
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682422/1274915/48615283.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682422/1274915/48615278.jpg
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682422/1274915/48615276.jpg
And finally, her new home!!!
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682422/1274915/48615277.jpg
nfmMike
03-18-2004, 07:43 AM
Nice pics!! And nice cabinet! And I like your after the pic labeling - but what is the right-most Marlin? Can't read it.
Again, very nice!
m141a
03-18-2004, 07:52 AM
Nice pics!! And nice cabinet! And I like your after the pic labeling - but what is the right-most Marlin? Can't read it.
Again, very nice!
HAHAHA!!
The one you can't read so well is a Marlin 336 cb in 38-55.
It has an octagonal barrel and marbles semi buckhorns.
i have been a lever fan as long as i've been "accumulating" guns...My passion is Winnie levers, but that 38-55 makes me smile EVERY time I look at it and pick it up!!! :D
http://pic10.picturetrail.com/VOL326/682422/1274915/48619603.jpg
Jack Monteith
03-18-2004, 07:56 AM
Congratulations from another .35 Remington fan. My old Marlin is the real thing for pushing bush.
Bye
Jack
Sidespin
03-18-2004, 08:02 AM
Ok, Ok, $125.
I'm kidding. Did you buy it from an estate? It had to be from an individual. Perhaps you said, or someone else said, but isn't the year of manufacture one for Ballard rifling?
Don't you just love that straight grip??
Mine is of 1957 ventage and is my favorite to just look at, I have never shot it. There's just something about a straight grip. And it being a .35 adds even more to the mystique.
m141a
03-18-2004, 08:27 AM
OK, here's how i got it.
I am the Police mechanic in my town. I had just brought a car back to headquarters when an older gent walked into the station and asked the desk SGT. how to turn in a firearm....well naturally my ears perked up, and the SGT; knowing my affinity for guns asked me and the guy if the gent was willing to sell it rather than it being turned into the state for destruction...ugh...
So I went outside to talk to the gent who informed me it was a lever rifle, but he could not remember what make or caliber. i met him later that day, asked the price he wished for the rifle. He wanted to give it to me, but I offered to pay anyway. The guy said 50 bucks was all he wanted, but i gave him the 75 just cause I wanted to. I offered 100 which he refused. So 75 bucks later I walked out with it. ;) he was pleased, I am elated!!!!!!!
The pics don't show how great this gun really is. For me, seeing the bluing worn from countless hunting trips and little dings and scratches in the stock, tell more tales than the previous owner. you almost have to try to imagine the hunts it has been on, the woods it's been through, the game it's taken...For me, that is what an old gun is all about.
Chris`
Sidespin
03-18-2004, 09:20 AM
Wow! I'm impressed, and envious.
You are right about those nicks and scratches. They give your rifle a "ghost" effect. Can you get in touch with the "seller"? If he could give you some history of your rifle it would mean even more to you and especially to future generations.
I embarked on a project a few months ago to put in print as much as possible about each firearm I have. I have even placed an old hunting licence under the butt plate of my .35 CS and my old 870 "Wingmaster" Remington 12 ga. Just something for my grand kids (prospective), or someone else to discover 100 years from now. Unless the John Kerry's of the world take over.
Man, that is a great story! I am so glad he was given the option to sell it rather than destruction, and I hope you will pass the rifle on someday too; complete with even more history. Please keep us informed of how your new .35 does on the range on during the hunt. We're all eyes (ears?).OK, here's how i got it.
I am the Police mechanic in my town. I had just brought a car back to headquarters when an older gent walked into the station and asked the desk SGT. how to turn in a firearm....well naturally my ears perked up, and the SGT; knowing my affinity for guns asked me and the guy if the gent was willing to sell it rather than it being turned into the state for destruction...ugh...
So I went outside to talk to the gent who informed me it was a lever rifle, but he could not remember what make or caliber. i met him later that day, asked the price he wished for the rifle. He wanted to give it to me, but I offered to pay anyway. The guy said 50 bucks was all he wanted, but i gave him the 75 just cause I wanted to. I offered 100 which he refused. So 75 bucks later I walked out with it. ;) he was pleased, I am elated!!!!!!!
The pics don't show how great this gun really is. For me, seeing the bluing worn from countless hunting trips and little dings and scratches in the stock, tell more tales than the previous owner. you almost have to try to imagine the hunts it has been on, the woods it's been through, the game it's taken...For me, that is what an old gun is all about.
Chris`
m141a
03-19-2004, 05:16 PM
Well thank you!
i plan on the Range sometime next week, and when I'm thru there, i'll give a Range report and post the holes the old girl makes.
In NJ, we cannot hunt with a rifle, as we are a shotgun state... :(
But I go to NH and VT to hunt with my father, who lived and retired from NJ to Maine. If she shoots well, she'll make the trip this November, instead of my tried and true Winnie trapper in 45colt.
My father has hunted with great sucess in his years, using from shotguns to mil surplus 7mm rifles, to finally the 336 in 30-30 i purchased for him about 10 years ago as a X-mas gift. He's used that 30-30 with great sucess for deer and bear in VT, as well as a few Yotes now and then. i can only hope the 336RC brings me as much luck. In the NE, it seems like nothing shines like a lever for brush and mountain huntin'.
Sounds like a good plan. Have fun, and good luck.
Ranch Dog
03-20-2004, 06:43 PM
m141a...
Why did the fellow want to turn it in?
Michael
m141a
03-21-2004, 03:47 AM
m141a...
Why did the fellow want to turn it in?
Michael
From what I could gather from his conversation with me, he felt he was too old to hunt any more, and didn't want the gun anymore.
I promised him a roast from the deer it takes. :cool:
Riflemen10x
03-21-2004, 08:46 AM
Hay there m141a,
I grew up in New Jersey (Exit 9) East Brunswick to be exact.And if memory serves me right You and your police buddy and the old man probaly broke around 20 state laws not to mention all the local laws ( would be around 30 or so in my old town).Too much BS for me.Just Don`t want to see you get into trouble.
Riflemen10x
m141a
03-21-2004, 08:53 AM
Well I really don't see how when all the necessary NJ paperwork was filled out and changed hands.
In NJ, you are still allowed private sales of rifles and handguns just as long as the "i"s are dotted and "t"s crossed.
But thanks for your concern, but if it was illegal, it would not have happened.
Riflemen10x
03-21-2004, 11:56 AM
Glad to here that it was on the up and up.had some real hard times with NJ laws just moving back to the state with handguns and long guns I bought while I was living in AZ.Too much for me to deal with after driving around with my rifles in the gun rack in the truck and wearing my P90DC on my hip all the time.It was just hard to be treated like the bad guy when i was doing the legal thing.I think it scared them that some people owned guns beside the police.Sorry i got off subject i own two 35 remingtons and love them.I payed a lot more than 75 for the two i have.mine knock deer right off there feet with 748 and a remington 200 grn corlock.Its the first gun i grab on my way out deer hunting outside of the shotgun only southern tier here in western New York.Enjoy the rifle you got Its a clasic for sure.
Riflemen10x
Yes, I got to enjoy AZ and the full extent of the 2nd for almost two years. Too bad most folks out there don't even know it's legal to walk into a liquor store with your sidearm in plain view, although now that they have a concealed carry permit that may have changed. Unfortunately, I worked for/with a bunch of liberal's who thought hunting was an act of terrorism, and I just couldn't stomach that kind of crap for long. I'd move back if I could fing a job I liked out there, but those that fit the bill were few and never paid enough to live on anyway. Now I'm back in Texas with my trusty .35.
Happy hunting ya'll!
Glad to here that it was on the up and up.had some real hard times with NJ laws just moving back to the state with handguns and long guns I bought while I was living in AZ.Too much for me to deal with after driving around with my rifles in the gun rack in the truck and wearing my P90DC on my hip all the time.It was just hard to be treated like the bad guy when i was doing the legal thing.I think it scared them that some people owned guns beside the police.Sorry i got off subject i own two 35 remingtons and love them.I payed a lot more than 75 for the two i have.mine knock deer right off there feet with 748 and a remington 200 grn corlock.Its the first gun i grab on my way out deer hunting outside of the shotgun only southern tier here in western New York.Enjoy the rifle you got Its a clasic for sure.
Riflemen10x
m141a
03-22-2004, 03:38 AM
Went and bought some Rem. green box 200 grainers yesterday. Plan on a trip to the range tomorrow. I'll let y'all know how it shoots.
snowdog
03-23-2004, 08:49 AM
Dang it!!!! After about 6 months of thinking it thru I finally
decided to go after the .35 Rem, for the fun of it I hit
2 pawn shops the second one had one, he wanted $479.00 !!! it wasn't new. I only seen the price tag on it.
I never talked with the guy just walked out. $75.00 !!
If I could get my hands on one for under $200.00 I
would be ecstatic!!! great find!!!
jonnyringo
04-01-2004, 04:59 PM
Sure glad I stumbled across this thread. I have been researching .35 lever guns for sometime. My desire is for a .356 Winchester but have decided to settle on a new Marlin in .35 Rem or 38/55 Ballard.
Which one is a better hunting rifle? I read where the 38.55 is suppose to be extremely accurate.
Does the Marlin (new production) have ballard or micro groove rifling in .35 Rem. I think the 38/55 has Ballard rifling.
Is anyone going to chamber the .348, .356 or the .358 again (Winchester or Marlin that is)?
What is the better rifle between the .35 Rem and .38/55?
Which is better? Which is right for you? 38/55 with Ballard rifling or microgroove .35 rem. With little or no exception, the .35 will deliver more speed and energy and will shoot flatter, plus becomes even more versatile with reloading or using specialty hot loads. But the 38/55 will deliver slightly larger and heavier bullets and premium ammo makers have produced cowboy loads and hot loads too, nostalgic shooting gets into your blood. Weight the facts, compare range and power facets and decide which is better for you. I'd have both if I could afford them.
Sure glad I stumbled across this thread. I have been researching .35 lever guns for sometime. My desire is for a .356 Winchester but have decided to settle on a new Marlin in .35 Rem or 38/55 Ballard.
Which one is a better hunting rifle? I read where the 38.55 is suppose to be extremely accurate.
Does the Marlin (new production) have ballard or micro groove rifling in .35 Rem. I think the 38/55 has Ballard rifling.
Is anyone going to chamber the .348, .356 or the .358 again (Winchester or Marlin that is)?
What is the better rifle between the .35 Rem and .38/55?
jonnyringo
04-03-2004, 06:27 AM
Which is better? Which is right for you? 38/55 with Ballard rifling or microgroove .35 rem. With little or no exception, the .35 will deliver more speed and energy and will shoot flatter, plus becomes even more versatile with reloading or using specialty hot loads. But the 38/55 will deliver slightly larger and heavier bullets and premium ammo makers have produced cowboy loads and hot loads too, nostalgic shooting gets into your blood. Weight the facts, compare range and power facets and decide which is better for you. I'd have both if I could afford them.
Then my research is correct. The .35 Rem is superior, thus, I will be adding one to my collection. I asked this question because sometimes the written literation about certain calibers or guns does not tell the entire story and I like personal experience and opinions from the commoner.
jonnyringo
04-03-2004, 06:29 AM
Dang it!!!! After about 6 months of thinking it thru I finally
decided to go after the .35 Rem, for the fun of it I hit
2 pawn shops the second one had one, he wanted $479.00 !!! it wasn't new. I only seen the price tag on it.
I never talked with the guy just walked out. $75.00 !!
If I could get my hands on one for under $200.00 I
would be ecstatic!!! great find!!!
In central Ohio, where I reside, one may purchase a brand new Marlin 336 in .35 Rem for under 400 bucks.
What do they go for on everone elses's neck of the woods, new?
jonnyringo
04-03-2004, 01:26 PM
Well it's a done deal. Ordered a Marlin 336C in 35
Rem. Cost me $343.00 plus tax.
Not bad for a new virgin rifle. btw, what's the difference between the 336RC vs. the 336C?
I like buying my rifles new, for the most part.
That way I know their history.
Anyways. it was a tough decision and was flipping between about four different LG from Win and Marlin in various calibers.
Now I have two LG's. A .44 mag trapper and the .35 Rem.
I still would like the Winchester Timber in .450 Marlin or the .444 Marlin by Marlin.
I have been doing way too much wheeling and dealing this winter. It's time to slow it down a pinch and do some shoot'n.
:D
nfmMike
04-03-2004, 09:14 PM
Congrats jj - on your new baby. Good price ( I think) on a new rifle. Enjoy!!
m141a - how was your first range day with the .35?
Here is my 1895 and my 336RC
nfmMike
04-03-2004, 09:32 PM
Ok, lets try adding a pic on a new post. This might be a pic of my 1895 and 336RC in .35 Rem.
Well, something is not letting this happen, maybe another time :confused:
m141a
04-04-2004, 05:21 AM
Congrats jj - on your new baby. Good price ( I think) on a new rifle. Enjoy!!
m141a - how was your first range day with the .35?
Here is my 1895 and my 336RC
:mad: :mad: :mad: I STILL haven't gotten there :mad: :mad: :mad:
Seems lately there's always sumthin' else that has to be done :(
Planned on goin' this mornin', but it's pourin'
In central Ohio, where I reside, one may purchase a brand new Marlin 336 in .35 Rem for under 400 bucks.
What do they go for on everone elses's neck of the woods, new?
I bought one at K-mart (shows you how long ago this was), and upon cycling it, found it would jam the cartridge coming out of the tube mag everytime, so I took it back. Since it had been returned once before by a K-Mart employee, I insisted they take it back from me, and they did. I took the receipt over to my friend who worked in sporting goods at Walmart, since at the time they had a meet or beat price war with K-mart, and I got to go home with mine with ten dollars in my pocket. I explained that it was a Marlin 336, the very same model as the ones they carry on 30-30 with the exception of a larger barrel bore, and price before taxes was $269; same as the 30-30 with Walnut stocks.
Pre-Brady Bill; those were good times indeed.....
m141a
04-12-2004, 02:27 PM
WELL I FINALLY SHOT IT!!!!!
Got out over the long weekend, and started at 50 and went to 100.
she shot to POA at 50, with a tight 1" group, and out at 100 it spread to about 2.5"
The recoil was that of a 30-30, not punishing or thumping at all.
From the bench she was tough, but I also shot from prone, sitting and offhand. All around an enjoyable rifle!!! ;)
Might be using this one come November.!
Glad you liked it, and let us know how it hunts!
WELL I FINALLY SHOT IT!!!!!
Got out over the long weekend, and started at 50 and went to 100.
she shot to POA at 50, with a tight 1" group, and out at 100 it spread to about 2.5"
The recoil was that of a 30-30, not punishing or thumping at all.
From the bench she was tough, but I also shot from prone, sitting and offhand. All around an enjoyable rifle!!! ;)
Might be using this one come November.!
nfmMike
04-13-2004, 06:10 AM
'Bout time, huh?
Your experience mirrors mine, it has enough authority to let you know "Here I am!" but not so much that it hurts after a box or so.
One of the nicer things, I think, is that the stocks are "in-between" sized - my Win 94 is light, and skinny, almost feels like a good .22 LR rifle, while my 1895 has, as someone else described, and I found hilarious and true, a "front end like a Buick"! This 336 anyway, is sized between the two, and retains the "handiness" of the '94.
Like you said - seems to be a great all around rifle!
Harry Snippe
04-13-2004, 08:45 AM
WELL I FINALLY SHOT IT!!!!!
Got out over the long weekend, and started at 50 and went to 100.
she shot to POA at 50, with a tight 1" group, and out at 100 it spread to about 2.5"
The recoil was that of a 30-30, not punishing or thumping at all.
From the bench she was tough, but I also shot from prone, sitting and offhand. All around an enjoyable rifle!!! ;)
Might be using this one come November.!
I do not feel the 35 reminton recoil at all but then again I am 230 LBs. And I shoot big brother 45/70 guide too!
My 336/35 is an older one with the ballard type rifling.
Reloading for this rifle is an enjoyment . It the range I can shoot plates all day at 100 yards with 205 RCBS cast lead GC bullet at the Varget jacketed load from Hodgdon.
Then moving up with 42 gr of BLC-2 and 180 speer which is going to the bush for deer and bear.
So get some brass from Midway and locate some once fired if you can, get a Lee crimpdie with your die set and get a box of 205 RCBS GC bullets.
You can then spend a day on the range,have a lot of fun , cheap ammo, and no barrel wear.
I shoot the 35 rem more than my .22
I know you will enjoy yours. :D
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