I just got a G2 rifle stock. On the but pad it says "WARNING FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS USE WITH BARREL LESS THAN 16in".
My G2 recever is origanaly a pistol. I have the G2 on my pistol permit. Both my barrels are 14". I am not going to use the rifle stock for big game hunting (the use of a pistol is alowed, but not rifle, in the sothern part of NYS).
Can I use the rifle stock for plinking or on the gun range, with a 14" barrel? Even if I have my pistol permit in my posesion at the time?

Absolutely not. Unless you file a form 1 with the ATFE and register the weapon as a SBR (short barrel rifle) and pay the $200 tax, having the shoulder stock on the piece with a barrel of less than 16 inches is a federal violation of the Gun Control Act and can land you with some serious jail time. There are no NFA provisions for a long barreled pistol, but for a shoulder stock to be attached, the arm MUST have a barrel length of 16 inches and an overall length of 26 inches or greater. To be less than 16" or 26" is in violation of the National Firearms Act. Don't even think about doing it.

Federal law defines a pistol as an arm that is designed to be shot with one hand, and a rifle as an arm that is designed to be shot from the shoulder. To put the stock on the G2 is making that arm a rifle, and as such it must have a 16 inch or longer barrel. There is no grey area here and the law is very clear and specific. It does not matter one bit that the receiver is registered as a pistol, you put the stock on it, it is a rifle and it had darned well better comply with the law as what defines a rifle. Now, if you Form 1 it and make it an SBR, then you can use the 14 inch barrel, but to SBR a single shot Contender to me is a royal waste of time and money.

to SBR a single shot Contender to me is a royal waste of time and money I agree.
What a stupid law, and waist of money:mad:. Mabe I can save for a 16" barrel or get rid of the stock.

I agree.
What a stupid law, and waist of money:mad:. Mabe I can save for a 16" barrel or get rid of the stock.


Just consider the $200 you WON'T BE PAYING for a license as part of the down payment for a longer barrel that WILL BE LEGAL. :)

Even with a 16" barrel, it will still be fun to shoot - maybe you can get a second caliber that will be even more practical in the 16" (or longer) barrel? I think there might be a big bore in your future!

GOOD LUCK!

Greg, don't know why I didn't think of this before - just get a muzzle brake installed on your barrel to bring the length out so it's legal as a rifle!

http://www.bellmtcs.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=438&

I think Dave White still only charges $80 for his Maximizer Brake added to your barrel.

GOOD LUCK!

Greg, don't know why I didn't think of this before - just get a muzzle brake installed on your barrel to bring the length out so it's legal as a rifle!

http://www.bellmtcs.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=438&

I think Dave White still only charges $80 for his Maximizer Brake added to your barrel.

GOOD LUCK!

Has to be a permanent installation...know weld is OK, THINK hard solder is acceptable, but check on that. Know low temp. solder is unacceptable.

Have to think of the gun writter...been a few years...he had to have a carbine in 45Win. Mag., so he had a 2 1/4" tube welded to the end of a 14" barrel.

I may get a muzzy break for my .30-30 barrel. I real wanted the stock to use with my .17HMR. I forgot that I have an EER scope on that barrel. The eye relief would be too awkward to fire from the rifle stock. Plus, Its kinda silly to have a break on a .17HMR! I would have a super noisy rimfire that had a 30% recoil reduction. Not worth it IMO.
I plan on keeping the stock in storage, until the monkey on my back starts screaming for a long varmint barrel. He’s satisfied for right now, but that never lasts.
I’m also having a bad mental image of Klinton, "going to work" on my barrel with a wrench. Then giving the order for the ATF, to start the assault on my home:eek: Not that I’m comparing my local gov. to Nazi Germany or anything:rolleyes:. Ohhh nooo, please! Don’t tell them I said that. I don’t want them to take me away! :eek:
Remember I don’t have the Freudian complex. My firearm does!
Edit: Im sorry for the obnoxious font. I realy dont know how that happened?

There's some neat rimmed wildcats you could convert that 30-30 over to - like these below, based on the 444 Marlin.

http://www.bellmtcs.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=24&t=1113&

http://www.hunt101.com/img/137091.JPG

"This is a picture for comparison of the 308 Bellm, which is for the T/C Contenders and the H&R/N.E.F. single shots. The middle picture is of the 308 Bellm #2 which is for the Encore and H&R and the one on the right is the new 308 Alpo....

Using one of my favorite powders for most of the short barrels H-4895 I weighed the empty cases first and then filled them to the bottom of the neck and weighed them again and here is what I came up with.

308 Bellm: 44.6 grains

308 Bellm#2: 52.5 grains

308 ALPO: 55.9 grains

As a side note and interesting observation, for some strange reason the 308 Alpo will fit in a 309 JDJ chamber and like wise, a 309 JDJ round will fit in the 308 Alpo chamber! Hmmmmmmm...Very interesting.... DAVID WHITE"

GOOD LUCK! ;)

Almost 56 grains of powder! Good Lord! I dont even use that much powder in my big game rifle.

Now to muddy up ATFs logic, you can have a shoulder stock attach to certain pistol that were made and issued with it. ie. Artilliry P08 Lugers, C96 Mauser Broomhandles, Black Powdered Revolvers.

Seems there's always a except to the rules somewhere.

Had David Van Horn of Gilbert, Az install a muzzle brake on a .35 Rem T/C Contender bbl a few years back, just so I could legally use it for a shoulder stocked firearm. Made total bbl length 16 1/2" so there would be no question. Worked great and dumped several deer with it.

Dave handmakes T/C barrels so this was no big step for him. If interested, send me a PM and I'll tag his address/phone #.