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broncobill86
08-17-2004, 07:14 PM
I've been eyeballing a Model 94, circa 1907, 26" round barrel 32WS. It is in great shape overall, though there is one thing that worries me. At some point between 1907 and 2004 some one had the side of the reciever drilled and tapped for a side scope mount. There are plug screws in the holes now. The screw heads match the aged finish of the gun very well. So well that the first couple of times I looked at I didn't even notice them. My situation is that I want a shooter. I don't believe in owning guns and not using them for enjoyment, but since it is not original I dont want to pay a collector price for it. The fact that they are there dont bother me a bit but like I said I dont want to pay for collector grade rifle. Generally how much does an altercation detract from the value of a gun. No super hard-core collectors please. Remember it is going to be a shooter.

Bill

Carignan577
08-27-2004, 07:54 AM
that is unfortunate. If everything else is in order I would say something like that would drop it by around 30% or a bit more. As rifles get older(1800's) the percent will increase.

That's a rough estimate from what I have seen about.

broncobill86
08-27-2004, 04:27 PM
Well I have been relieved slightly out this ordeal. I got to looking and measuring and it turns out it that the receiver was drilled and tapped for was an old Lyman #38. I can actually see on the wear from this particular sight on the side of the reciever. And to my suprise I was able to find an original one. Before now I had never even seen or heard of one of these sights. I looked and found that Buffalo Arms makes a new version of this sight for $300ish, which is about what I paid for an original. So I am pretty happy. Well atleast if it is going to be tapped I am going to replace it with a time accurate peep sight.

Bill

broncobill86
08-27-2004, 04:29 PM
Oh and the screw plugs were actually wooden dowel rods that had been put in the holds and cut off. They were so old that they were essentially mulch when I took them out. :)

Bill

kdub
08-27-2004, 08:59 PM
Sounds like you've got yourself just what you wanted, bronco - congratulations on the new acquisition! :D

M1894
08-28-2004, 01:10 PM
Bill:

Are you sure that you have a Model 94, or is it a Model 1893. The 32 Winchester is a little long for the 94. The 94 used the 32-20 known as a 32 wcf where the 93 used the 32 Special known as 32 ws. The 93 looks just like the 94, except the 94 is shorter to take pistol cartridges. If yours is the 32-20, it makes a dandy plinking and small game round, and great with 115 grain cast bullets. Many years ago winchester loaded a hi velocity load that was marked for rifles only, so as you can see, you can get velocities in excess of the new 32 H&R Mag. I was lucky enough to find an old colt 32-20 with a 4 3/4" barrel to go with mine, I hope you can get that lucky to0.

Lee L.

broncobill86
08-28-2004, 02:34 PM
Yes it is a model 1894. I don't understand why you might think it is too long of a cartridge. It is mearly a necked up 30-30, which if I'm not correct the gun that the 30-30 was designed for. I have seen smaller 1892's chambered in the 32-20, not sure about the 32-40 though. Oh well, I am intriqued by your response and if you have any more info please pass it along.

Bill

M1894
08-29-2004, 11:12 AM
Bill:
I think I see the where I got my wires crossed I've been thinking that yours is a Marlin, and I was not thinking of Winchester. My personnal collection is mostly Marlins, and the only winchesters I have is one 1938 30-30, and a Teddy Roosevelt Commemorative Carbine in 30-30, so as you can see assuming things just made an a$$ out of me. I hope you can find many more finds like the 1907 model and enjoy them as well. Your mention of the 92 Model tipped me off to my error.

Lee L.