Have you ever had one of those days when everything went wrong.

We are going on a hunting trip in a couple of weeks to an area that I have never seen. I planned to take two guns, a 307 Winchester for open woods and a 375 Marlin for brush and tickets. I have been working on several loads for each gun and decided to go to the range.

Everything was going fine. The 307 was shooting nice tight groups. I levered the gun to put in another shell, but it did not eject the spent case. I looked at the bolt and the ejector was broken off smooth with the bolt. I do not know why it broke, it just broke. Al (our local gunsmith) can order the part, but it will probably be 6 to 8 weeks before he can fix the gun (rush season for him and Winchester).

I got the 375 Marlin out. Everything was going fine. I had reduced the load to shoot 2200 ft/sec with a 200 grain Sierra bullet. It was shooting a nice tight group. I was feeling good again. I levered the gun to put another shell into the barrel and something was wrong. The loading gate (the spring that depresses to allow bullets to go in the loading port) had gotten caught on the end of the shell on the carriage and was twisted and bent. Apparently the screw had come loose and allowed the gate to drop down just enough to catch the end of the shell. When I got home, I put the loading gate spring in a vise and straightened it enough to work ( I hope).

Just to be on the safe side, tomorrow I am taking the 35 Marlin to the range and sighting it in. Thank goodness the 30-30AI Marlin is already sighted in. Never under-estimate the importance of having a backup gun. And when you have a day like this, don't pickup your back up gun and go back to the range. Wait until tomorrow.

Sorry about your day Taylor but you make some really good points.

Have you ever had one of those days when everything went wrong.

We are going on a hunting trip in a couple of weeks to an area that I have never seen. I planned to take two guns, a 307 Winchester for open woods and a 375 Marlin for brush and tickets. I have been working on several loads for each gun and decided to go to the range.

Everything was going fine. The 307 was shooting nice tight groups. I levered the gun to put in another shell, but it did not eject the spent case. I looked at the bolt and the ejector was broken off smooth with the bolt. I do not know why it broke, it just broke. Al (our local gunsmith) can order the part, but it will probably be 6 to 8 weeks before he can fix the gun (rush season for him and Winchester).

I got the 375 Marlin out. Everything was going fine. I had reduced the load to shoot 2200 ft/sec with a 200 grain Sierra bullet. It was shooting a nice tight group. I was feeling good again. I levered the gun to put another shell into the barrel and something was wrong. The loading gate (the spring that depresses to allow bullets to go in the loading port) had gotten caught on the end of the shell on the carriage and was twisted and bent. Apparently the screw had come loose and allowed the gate to drop down just enough to catch the end of the shell. When I got home, I put the loading gate spring in a vise and straightened it enough to work ( I hope).

Just to be on the safe side, tomorrow I am taking the 35 Marlin to the range and sighting it in. Thank goodness the 30-30AI Marlin is already sighted in. Never under-estimate the importance of having a backup gun. And when you have a day like this, don't pickup your back up gun and go back to the range. Wait until tomorrow.
Taylor,
I also had "One of those days" at the range,yesterday.
Our Club ran a Military Shoot over 8 or 10 Saturdays,this year.
I participated at the one held two weeks ago,and again at the last one of the year.(yesterday)
I brought 2 guns;my 1903A3 with globe sights,and my 30 Gl Carbine with scope,as backup,and to fire after the shoot.
Upon entering the preperation stage,I discovered that I'd replaced the clip on the end of the sling( that fits onto the upper band) with a detachable sling swivel for my 30 Cal Carbine sporter.I could not use the sling,so I had to close up the Springfield and,when asked about needing more time,removed it from the line and replaced it with the Carbine.
I had everything ready,so it only took 2 minutes,but I held up the entire line.
Th first course was 25 yard offhand,and,after 4 rounds,I could not get another round to feed.The box magazine failed.I had to remove it and replace it with another,and renew fireing.Again,I was holding up the entire line.
The second sage went OK.(50 yds)
At the 3rd stage,(100 yd rest),I noticed that I was hitting Left,and corrected for it.Now,I'm farther to the Left. YES,I screwed up. Now, I go twice as much,in reverse. Now I'm Ok,but am rushing to not hold up the line again.
Last stage,(200 yd rest) I've never fired before.I looked up the drop in an older Hornaday Manual,which,I read to be 17 inches. This is a POA over the top of the frame for a POI in the bull.
I shoot an 8 inch group,12 inches below POA,and hits 6 inch above the bullseye.
Lousey score.I'm sure that no one on the range ever suspected that I had about 20 year'sexperience at competetive shooting.
Keep the Faith,There's better days ahead.
Frank

Taylor,

Try Brownells to get the Winchester extractor. They are an easy replacement. If you can disassemble the gun, you can r&r the extractor.

Winchester also has an online parts department.

No sence in waiting two months for the gunsmith to order and install it.

Joe

Taylor,

This is the second broken extractor on a M-94 we have seen reported on this forum this year.
Up to now I had never heard of a M-94 extractor breaking!
If you get the chance take a look at the broken ends with a 10X loop. Your gunsmith should have one. Look for discoloration that would indicate a crack. Sort of an interesting subect to me.
Anyone else ever have a Winchester M-94 extractor break?

William,
I remember the last thread about the broken extractor. The owner was going replace it himself and asked for instructions.
I took my 94AE apart to see how it was done. Wrote him up an instruction sheet. I just don't remember which forum that was in.

I've had like a bunch of Winchesters and a few other lever guns and I've never had an extractor break. Never babied any of them either.

My 94AE Trapper has near 2000 live rounds fired through it, and who know how many dummies cycled through the action.

At this point I'm thinking I should order a spare top and angle eject extractor just because.

Joe

At least you got some shooting in. A couple of months ago I took my muzzleloader to the range. With the first shot, I launched the range rod out to the 50 yard line. I later found the rod, but not the brass jag. Since I had only brought one rod with me, my day was done.

Might pay to tie that rod to the bench! It woeks for fals muzzles!
I was having the same thoughts about Winchester extractors. To be honest I had the same thoughts a few years ago about Marlin ejectors!
Any of you remeber reading about Phil Sharpe cleaning his Marlin .22 and then riding his bicycle home only to find he had forgotten to reinstall the ejector? It was still there under the tree when he rode back!
Seriously, we have eight Winchester M-94's in my immediate family. Most were purchased new. Some have been around for quite awhile and no extractor problems. Still, Mr. Murphy reigns supreme!

Take the 35. It will do all you need, thicket or clearing.
Then take your time and get the guns fixed right. chances are, Winchester may fix it for free, just lost time without your gun. i'd call them.