[Quote] I have a question for 94 Big Bore XTR 375 Win owners. I've got one with a serial number that is prefaced with the letters BB (BB044XXX). I called Winchester (1-800-975-5237) to find out more about the serial number and managed to talk to their historian. He claimed that records for that period were destroyed in a fire, but from memory he said my rifle was probably made in 1980. The guy seemed to know his Winchester history.

My question is - how long were the serial numbers prefaced with "BB"? The Big Bores were introduced in 1978 and made unchanged until 1983 when the "94 XTR Angle Eject" was introduced. I'm guessing that the BB was dropped with the AE Big Bore models, but it's just a guess.

Any info you may have about the BB numbers would be appreciated.
[Quote]

Timber, I hijacked your post to start this off. Somwhere on this forum there is a thread by someone who was trying to start a data base of known Big Bore serial numbers and configuration. Seems like a good idea to me. Was this Robert Anderson?

Any way, my top eject 375 is s/n BB 040141 just to start things off!
I have encountered BB016725, BB020698, BB035884, BB041567, BB043XXX at various auctions and in various postings. These are all top eject low comb stocks.
An unusual configuration that has been reported but I have not seen pictures to verify is a angle eject s/n AE16XXX that is not drilled and tapped for a scope mount. This rifle is a .375.
I would like to know the approximate s/n range where the monte carlo stock stopped. My .307 is a pre-safety low stock model, its s/n is 5588015. I think this rifle is pretty early in the low stock - pre-safety group but have no way to prove it.

If you feel better giving just the first three s/n's thats fine, it gets us close to the series. I would like to hear about an angle eject that is a post AE prefix low stock pre-safety with a lower serial than mine. Just to get a rough s/n range. Whoever was trying to develop the data base - how are you coming with that?

[Edit] Adding just a bit more information from various threads around this Forum. I have looked at these four "truths" pretty closely and believe they are true.
There were 19,000 Angle Ejects made in .375 Winchester.
Rebound hammer came in 1981.
Angle Eject started in 1983.
Monte Carlo Stock was available only in 1983.
Angle Eject serial numbers started: AE 1001 to AE 19000.
After 1984 Big Bore rifles serial numbered with the other Model 94's.

Interesting info, Slim. Thanks.

My .375 WCF serial number is BB011xxx. Sorry, I can't recall the last three digits, right now.

RSY

My .375 win, top eject is ser # BBoo4xxx. I have never seen a BB angle eject in .375.

RSY and Marlin thanks for the information. Your two rifles are pretty early production. I wonder how many were made each year? When a manufactuere tools up to make a rifle in a new caliber I wonder how much material and labor they risk?
I have a picture from an auction site of a top eject Big Bore in .375 with a leather cartridge pouch over the butt stock. Has anyone else seen one of these cartridge pouches? This one is s/n BBoo1822. Was anything of this type offered with the .307 or .356?
With the new .25-35's Winchester seems to have made three pre-production batches. The first must have been quite small. A second batch was sent to Canada. I assume this would have been larger. Then the third batch was released into the U.S. market. Regular production is supposed to start in July. I got all of this from a phone call to Winchester. With these rifles serialed in the regular Model 94 series we may never know many details on the quantity of each short run. Why make three short runs prior to regular production? I understand that Marlin sometimes tests the water by announcing a new product prior to putting it into production to see how the advance orders stack up.

My .375 win, top eject is ser # BBoo4xxx. I have never seen a BB angle eject in .375. .


I haven't either but there was one on gunbroker last month. It was a Mark Twain commemorative. According to my information, there were only 150 produced. I fell asleep at the wheel and got outbid. I contacted the winning bidder and offered him a substantial profit for it but he declined.

Another one that "got away".

I am looking for a picture of a Mark Twain Commemorative. Have not found one yet.

Here are some early articles on the Big Bore rifles. No serial numbers mentioned by the authors.

8-1978 American Rifleman give the first announcement of the .375 Big Bore. They say it will be available in September 1978. Retail price of the rifle is listed as $199.95 with ammo listed t $11.10.

1-1979 American Rifleman has a Dope Bag review of the .375 Big Bore rifle.

11- 1978 American Rifleman has a Model Variation announcement of the Savage Model 99 in .375.

1979 Gun Digest has the announcement of the cartridge in Gun Digest by Ken Waters.

1-79 Handloader has Ken Waters first Pet Loads article on the .375 Winchester.

6-79 American Rifleman has the announcement of the Hornady 220 grain .375 bullet.

I believe the same issue of the Rifleman announces the Williams reciever sight and side mount scope base for the top eject Big Bore.

1-1980 Shooting Times has the announcement of Marlin Chambering the .375 Winchester in the M-336.

2-1980 Guns and Ammo has the announcement of the Ruger No. 3 in .375 by Craig Boddington.

4-1980 American Rifleman has a Dope Bag test of the Marlin 375 rifle.

The 1981 G&A Annual has a test by Rick Hacker of the Marlin 375.

1-1983 Handloader has Ken Waters second Pet Loads article using the Savage M-99.

5-1983 The American Hunter has a test of the Ruger No. 3 in .375

11-1983 The American Rifleman has the introductory test of the new Angle Eject Winchesters and the new .307 and .356 cartidges.

2-1988 G&A has a good general artical by Mike Venturino on the Marlin rifles chambered for the Big bore cartridges.

11-1989 Gil Sengel did a cartridge board report on the .375 Winchester.

9-1994 John Taffin does a Taffin Tests on the .375 in American Handgunner.

8-1996 Rocky Rabb has a test of the .375 in the TC Contender in Handloader.

The 1997 Handloaders Digest has an interesting article on the Marlin .375 by Jack Wright.

I would be interested in hearing about any other articles that feature the Winchester rifles.

Hi William,
This may be of interest.
I purchased a used BB94 XTR .375 at a local gun shop here in Alberta in the summer of 1981. It featured the straight low comb stock. The serial # was BB001123. I no longer own this rifle as accuracy was erratic to say the very least but in spite of that, it was one of my favorite guns. Groups with full power loads and the Hornady 220 Flat Point would rarely stay inside 5". I did discover in my search for a good load that 35 grains of Olin 680 and the Speer 235 grain spitzer (one in the spout, one in the mag) would go an average of 2240 FPS, and shot into an average group of 3". The 220 Hornady hit 2300 FPS, but still shot poorly at about 5".
The load this rifle liked best was the old Lyman 375296, cast of wheelweights, gaschecked over 22 grains of H4227. This one would regularly go into 2" and accounted for several local whitetails and one moose.
It wore a Williams FP the entire time we were together, and I still have regrets for selling it, however it was replaced with a Marlin 1895 that shoots better than I do.:)

Regards,
Bryan

Bryan,

Thanksfor the info. I'm adding you to my spread sheet. When I rediscover the original thread on this I will add all of the information from the spread sheet to the thread. i wish I could remember who was working on this. He had a lot more knowladge on these rifles than I do!

Can you give me any and all information that you can on this rifle. I'm about to buy
one and I need to know if it is worthwhile.
Thanks,
spurgon

Which model are looking at?

Which model are looking at?
William,
Sorry about not enough information. I'm looking at a Winchester 94 chambered in 307. Any information would be appreciated.
spurgon

Well, the .307 is my favorite of the Big Bore rifles. Thereare three basic models. The first has the monte carlo stock and screws for the front sight base that enter from an angle. All of these I have seen came from the factory with scope mount bases installed and with sling swivels installed. If anyone has a monte carlo Angle Eject rifle in any caliber that does not have sling swivels I would like to hear about it.

The second model has the low butt stock, no safety and the front scope base screws are drilled straight into the reciever ansd they are in line with the bore.

The thrid model is the same and has the added "benifit" of the crossbolt safety.

The second and third models did not come with either sling swivels or scope bases.

All .307 and .356 Rifles have rebound hammers and hammers drilled for the Winchester hammer extension.

The Winchester hammer extension is superior to the clamp on style.

If you search under lever actions general, Model 84 lever actions and handloading you should come up with several threads on the cartridge. You will see I am a big fan. When you search go to the bottom of the page and cvhange the search to from the beginning.

There are a few small peculiarities to loading for the cartridge that we can talk about after you have read a little. It is a fine cartridge.

William,
I guess I;m thick but I can't turn up any results when I do a search. Help me out here.
thanks,
spurgon

William,
I guess I;m thick but I can't turn up any results when I do a search. Help me out here.
thanks,
spurgon

Bill Lester and Jack M. have been trying to teach me the value of folders for several years now. I am slowly learning!

Here are a few links


http://www.marlinfirearms.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004467.html#6

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=17567&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=14764&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4452&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=11920&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=11874&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=9987&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=9009&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=7063&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=5725&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=5253&highlight=.307


http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4853&highlight=.307


http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=2269&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4331&highlight=.307


http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4337&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=1981&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=1881&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=2290&highlight=.307



http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=2334&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=2334&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=9029&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=6787&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=4336&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=9464&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=5417&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=1801&highlight=.307

http://www.shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=1610&highlight=.307

[QUOTE=william iorg]Bill Lester and Jack M. have been trying to teach me the value of folders for several years now. I am slowly learning!

Here are a few links

William,
Thanks for taking the time to list these links. Do you just keep them in a folder on your desktop? Do I just drag and drop them into my folder?
thanks again ,
spurgon

I think it was Jack who showed me several times the advantage of making folders in my favorites bar. I now make folders for each caliber and add the links to these folders. I have them for the .30-30AI, 307, .444, .375 Win etc. I have them for sights and cast bullets too. By using folders your favorites bar is manageable.
Jack had to post the link to the Marlin 336 cutaway drawing from Real Guns four times before I got the hint and made a folder. I think Jack had to post the SAAMI pressure article on the Marlin 1895 three or four times for me too. I am a slow learner on this computer!
The search option works well on Beartooth but you need to remember to search each possible seperate forum and change the time span bar at the bottom of the page to from the beginning. This will get a good search.
Also, when you begin seeing the same names linked to subjects, go to the members list and look up that person and check all of their posts. This will bring up things you have missed.
For example, searching on Kragman 71 will get several paper patch bullet threads that do not come up in a normal search.
When looking for threads on optimum lead hardness for cast bullets look for C. E. Harris in the members list and follow his threads.
For information on the Ackley cartridges and backthrust search under David White.

[Quote] I have a question for 94 Big Bore XTR 375 Win owners. I've got one with a serial number that is prefaced with the letters BB (BB044XXX). I called Winchester (1-800-975-5237) to find out more about the serial number and managed to talk to their historian. He claimed that records for that period were destroyed in a fire, but from memory he said my rifle was probably made in 1980. The guy seemed to know his Winchester history.

My question is - how long were the serial numbers prefaced with "BB"? The Big Bores were introduced in 1978 and made unchanged until 1983 when the "94 XTR Angle Eject" was introduced. I'm guessing that the BB was dropped with the AE Big Bore models, but it's just a guess.

Any info you may have about the BB numbers would be appreciated.
[Quote]

Timber, I hijacked your post to start this off. Somwhere on this forum there is a thread by someone who was trying to start a data base of known Big Bore serial numbers and configuration. Seems like a good idea to me. Was this Robert Anderson?

Any way, my top eject 375 is s/n BB 040141 just to start things off!
I have encountered BB016725, BB020698, BB035884, BB041567, BB043XXX at various auctions and in various postings. These are all top eject low comb stocks.
An unusual configuration that has been reported but I have not seen pictures to verify is a angle eject s/n AE16XXX that is not drilled and tapped for a scope mount. This rifle is a .375.
I would like to know the approximate s/n range where the monte carlo stock stopped. My .307 is a pre-safety low stock model, its s/n is 5588015. I think this rifle is pretty early in the low stock - pre-safety group but have no way to prove it.

If you feel better giving just the first three s/n's thats fine, it gets us close to the series. I would like to hear about an angle eject that is a post AE prefix low stock pre-safety with a lower serial than mine. Just to get a rough s/n range. Whoever was trying to develop the data base - how are you coming with that?

[Edit] Adding just a bit more information from various threads around this Forum. I have looked at these four "truths" pretty closely and believe they are true.
There were 19,000 Angle Ejects made in .375 Winchester.
Rebound hammer came in 1981.
Angle Eject started in 1983.
Monte Carlo Stock was available only in 1983.
Angle Eject serial numbers started: AE 1001 to AE 19000.
After 1984 Big Bore rifles serial numbered with the other Model 94's.


Slim: Thanks for taking this thread and running with it.

Since my original post I picked up a 307, AE 125XX. It's an '83 version with the monte carlo stock, factory installed steel weaver style scope bases, swivel studs and a non-rebounding hammer. Unfortunately, the previous owner removed the clamp-on hammer extension, sight hood and swivels. Minor stuff that can be replaced.

I agree with your research and "truths", except the one about rebounding hammers. The "New Improved Trigger Mechanism", with rebound hammer, was announced in the 1985 Winchester catalog. So I'm guessing they were added in late '84 production.

On another subject, I noticed in the picture you posted of the BB 375 with a leather cartridge pouch, that the forearm is the long style. Was this a normal production item at some time? Both my top eject BB 375 and 307 have the shorter version. My Timber carbine has the long version however.

[quote]
[I]Any way, my top eject 375 is s/n BB 040141 just to start things off!
I have encountered BB016725, BB020698, BB035884, BB041567, BB043XXX at various auctions and in various postings. These are all top eject low comb stocks.
An unusual configuration that has been reported but I have not seen pictures to verify is a angle eject s/n AE16XXX that is not drilled and tapped for a scope mount. This rifle is a .375.
I would like to know the approximate s/n range where the monte carlo stock stopped. My .307 is a pre-safety low stock model, its s/n is 5588015. I think this rifle is pretty early in the low stock - pre-safety group but have no way to prove it.

If you feel better giving just the first three s/n's thats fine, it gets us close to the series. I would like to hear about an angle eject that is a post AE prefix low stock pre-safety with a lower serial than mine. Just to get a rough s/n range. Whoever was trying to develop the data base - how are you coming with that? [unquote]

Slim

Slim,

I was rereading the posts on this thread and realized I can probably date your 94AE 307. I have a M 94AE XTR in 30-30, SN 5516028. I wanted to find out when it was manufactured, so I called Winchester's service department and they told me it was manufactured in 1988. Your 307 was numbered 71,987 Model 94's later, making it either a 1988 or 1989. According to my Winchester catalogs, in 1988 the Big Bores were still called "XTR". In the 1989 catalog they were refered to as "Walnut Big Bore", and the XTR was not mentioned. Also, both the '88 and'89 catalogs showed a post front sight. In the 1990 catalog the Big Bores sported a hooded ramped front sight and a set screw was added to the link pin, just like the pre '64s had. If your's was made in '88, I thing it would have "XTR" stamped in the barrel. I hope this helps.

Timber
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Black Tuesday, 1-16-06, is like 9-11 to Model 94 fans.

The serial # on my Winchester Big Bore Model 94 XTR .375 Win is BB0369xx. It is a top eject. I think that I was told that it is a 1981. I am not sure.

George

Wow...how did I miss this thread. Here is a list of Ser. #'s we put together over on Leverguns. The one made in 1992 is mine...probably one of the first with the crossbolt. I wish we had dates for the early BB ser #'s. Let me know if any of them are yours and I will update with the approximate year of manufacture. Note: final 3 numbers left off.

Winchester Big Bores (MC=Monte Carlo Low=Low profile stock)

S/N Stock Caliber Action Safety

BB001xxx low .375 Top No
BB004xxx low .375 Top No
BB0090XX 375 top made in 1979
BB011xxx low .375 Top No
BB016xxx low .375 Top No
BB020xxx low .375 Top No
BB035xxx low .375 Top No
BB035xxx low .375 Top No
BB036xxx ? .375 Top No 1981? XTR
BB037xxx low .375 Top No
BB040xxx low .375 Top No
BB041xxx low .375 Top No
BB043xxx low .375 Top No
BB044xxx low .375 Top No
BB0445XX 375 top made in 1980
BB045xxx low .375 Top No
BB051231 ? .375 ? ?
AE11xxx MC .307 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE12xxx MC .356 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE125XX 307 MC made in 1984
AE135XX MC .356 Angle No
AE16xxx MC .375 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE16xxx MC .375 Angle No Not drilled for scope
mount-transition gun?
AE160xx MC .307 Angle No
AE18xXX MC .307 Angle No
AE19xxx MC .307 Angle No
AE230xx MC 375 Angle No made 1985 Mark Twain Commemorative
5588xxx low .307 Angle No
5624xxxlow .356 Angle No
6029xxx low .356 Angle Yes ( bought new around Mar. 1992)
605xxxx low .356 Angle Yes
6214xxx low .356 Angle Yes
6279xxxA low .356 Angle Yes

Chris;

I've got three Big Bores and would like to add the serial numbers to your list:

BB0090XX 375 top made in 1979
BB0445XX 375 top made in 1980
AE125XX 307 MC made in 1984

The dates were given by the Winchester historian, who definately knows his Winchester 94's. Hope this helps in trying to date these fine firearms.

Timber

I have two BB94s.

-Mod 94AE Xtr Cal 307 AE16*** No manual safety, half cock hammer, drilled for scope mount, radial holes on front scope base.
-Mod 94AE Xtr Cal 356 AE13*** No manual safety, half cock hammer, drilled for scope mount, radial holes on front scope base.

Hope this helps

Thanks Timber 444 and Tahoe. I will add them in.....maybe we can start to narrow the years down on these. Slim needs to maybe write a book and put them in there ;)

Tahoe

Thanks for adding your SN's. What kind of stocks do your 94's have? MC or straight; checkered or plain?

Timber

Tahoe

Thanks for adding your SN's. What kind of stocks do your 94's have? MC or straight; checkered or plain?

Timber

Both are MC and checkered

Can anyone explain the "rebounding hammer" to me. I have two AE BB94s and when I pull the trigger the hammer strikes the firing pin and remains in contact with it. Also both rifles have a half cock safety and No Button safety. Do I have regular hammers or rebounding?

Thanks for any edification...

I have a couple.

94BB .375 top-eject BB015***. Probably 1980.
94AE .356 angle-eject , drilled & tapped for scope AE109**. Probably before 1984 or early '84.

Winchester could not give me a date on either.

Tahoe, that's the original, non rebounding hammer

Tahoe, that's the original, non rebounding hammer

I like that! Somewhere I read that all AEs had rebounding hammers and the triggers were negatively affected. I always thought my triggers were pretty good. I guess that explains its.

Are you all still compiling SN's?? I can get you a couple more off mine if you want.

Wow...how did I miss this thread. Here is a list of Ser. #'s we put together over on Leverguns. The one made in 1992 is mine...probably one of the first with the crossbolt. I wish we had dates for the early BB ser #'s. Let me know if any of them are yours and I will update with the approximate year of manufacture. Note: final 3 numbers left off.

Winchester Big Bores (MC=Monte Carlo Low=Low profile stock)

S/N Stock Caliber Action Safety

BB001xxx low .375 Top No
BB004xxx low .375 Top No
BB0090XX 375 top made in 1979
BB011xxx low .375 Top No
BB016xxx low .375 Top No
BB020xxx low .375 Top No
BB035xxx low .375 Top No
BB035xxx low .375 Top No
BB036xxx ? .375 Top No 1981? XTR
BB040xxx low .375 Top No
BB041xxx low .375 Top No
BB043xxx low .375 Top No
BB0445XX 375 top made in 1980
BB037xxx low .375 Top No
BB045xxx low .375 Top No
BB044xxx low .375 Top No
AE11xxx MC .307 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE12xxx MC .356 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE125XX 307 MC made in 1984
AE135XX MC .356 Angle No
AE16xxx MC .375 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE16xxx MC .375 Angle No Not drilled for scope
mount-transition gun?
AE160xx MC .307 Angle No
AE18xXX MC .307 Angle No
AE19xxx MC .307 Angle No
AE230xx MC 375 Angle No made 1985 Mark Twain Commemorative
5588xxx low .307 Angle No
5624xxxlow .356 Angle No
6029xxx low .356 Angle Yes ( bought new around Mar.
1992)
605xxxx low .356 Angle Yes
6214xxx low .356 Angle Yes
6279xxxA low .356 Angle Yes


I have just purchased a nice M94 .375 Big Bore XTR, its serial no. is BB051231. Do you know what its year of manufacture would be?
Thanks
Andrew

I have just purchased a nice M94 .375 Big Bore XTR, its serial no. is BB051231. Do you know what its year of manufacture would be?
Thanks
Andrew

Ive added your number to the spreadsheet.
I wish I had more information to give.

Hi Fellas,

Back after a long Hiatus. Send me the numbers and info and I will gladly add them. Thanks for the info. Any info about when purchased new would help also.

Edit:

S/N Stock Caliber Action Safety


BB001xxx low .375 Top No
BB004xxx low .375 Top No
BB007xxx low 375 top NO
BB0090XX 375 top made in 1979
BB011xxx low .375 Top No
BB01434X low .375 top no
BB016xxx low .375 Top No
BB020xxx low .375 Top No
BB027XXX low 375 top no (large loop lever, factory?)
BB029xxx low 375 top NO
BB035xxx low .375 Top No
BB035xxx low .375 Top No
BB036xxx ? .375 Top No 1981? XTR
BB037xxx low .375 Top No
BB040xxx low .375 Top No
BB041xxx low .375 Top No
BB043xxx low .375 Top No
BB044xxx low .375 Top No
BB0445XX 375 top made in 1980
BB045xxx low .375 Top No
BB051231 low .375 top no
AE11xxx MC .307 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE12xxx MC .356 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE125XX 307 MC made in 1984
AE135XX MC .356 Angle No
AE16xxx MC .375 Angle No RockIslandAuction
AE16xxx MC .375 Angle No Not drilled for scope
mount-transition gun?
AE160xx MC .307 Angle No
AE18xXX MC .307 Angle No
AE19xxx MC .307 Angle No
AE230xx MC 375 Angle No made 1985 Mark Twain Commemorative
5586xxx low 307 angle NO
5588xxx low .307 Angle No
5624xxxlow .356 Angle No
6029xxx low .356 Angle Yes ( bought new around Mar. 1992)
605xxxx low .356 Angle Yes
6214xxx low .356 Angle Yes
6218xxx low 356 angle YES
6279xxxA low .356 Angle Yes
6422xxx low 444 angle YES

Here's a few more:

5279xxx low 7/30 angle NO
5586xxx low 307 angle NO
6218xxx low 356 angle YES
BB029xxx low 375 top NO
BB007xxx low 375 top NO
6422xxx low 444 angle YES

Thanks Strut! I will add them in today but gotta run for now. If you are near Scotia Range, let me know....maybe we can burn up some powder together.

I've added a couple of pictures of my big bore 94 to
http://www.progalleries.com.au/en/Album/Cover.asp?A=990294
You can make out the serial no. in one of the shots.
thanks
andrew

Hi Drew,

What a coincidence! I was just on your site looking at your Big Bore when I got your SN post.

Based on the fact that your rifle is a Top Eject, I guess we could narrow your rifle down to 1980-3, probably towards the latter year. As I've posted, I hope to make some of this serial number info more useful by getting more dates and information.

Congratulations on a fine rifle. Have you shot it yet?

Congratulations on a fine rifle. Have you shot it yet?

Hi chris,
yes, i've been shooting with it several times now. It certainly packs a punch and is perfect to carry and use in tight scrub.
The cost and availability of .375 WIN amm. has been a real bother for me, but today i found out that my gunsmith shop will reload for me at about 1$ each (ie. half price).
andrew

Thanks Strut! I will add them in today but gotta run for now. If you are near Scotia Range, let me know....maybe we can burn up some powder together.

Scotia?? Isn't that pretty handy State College, somewhere? I generally have all my needs met on my own range. But, I do get up into the Huntingdon/Raystown area once in a while. And I do like to B.S. & burn powder. It's about a two hour drive from here. What types of facilities and yardages do they have there??

Hi Chris, just ran across this post and thought I'd join this this site. I have a Big Bore XTR serial # BB027XXX that I bought new in 1989. I've only shot 2 boxes of bullets in it and thought about using to hunt with next year. From reading this thread, I see that it was probably made much earlier, gues it was just in somebody's warehouse somewhere. It is a straight stock .375 but the interesting thing about it is that it has the oversized loop, don't know the official name but I call it the John Wayne loop. Glad to find this site, looks to have alot of great information.

Hi Chris, just ran across this post and thought I'd join this this site. I have a Big Bore XTR serial # BB027XXX that I bought new in 1989. I've only shot 2 boxes of bullets in it and thought about using to hunt with next year. From reading this thread, I see that it was probably made much earlier, gues it was just in somebody's warehouse somewhere. It is a straight stock .375 but the interesting thing about it is that it has the oversized loop, don't know the official name but I call it the John Wayne loop. Glad to find this site, looks to have alot of great information.

Thank you Fightintiger and welcome to the forum. I am thinking that your John Wayne loop was an after market item that was put on the gun after it was bought. Has anyone heard of the Big Loop being on these Big Bores at the factory? Slim might pipe up here and give us some more info as to whether he's seen one before. Congrats on a fine gun and again, welcome! I hope we can some more definitive dates on some of these rifles, or someone with access to the manufacturing records can make the production dates public.

.375W, top eject, half cock hammer, low straight stock. BB01434/

Old Sh.

.375W, top eject, half cock hammer, low straight stock. BB01434/

Old Sh.

Same as Ol' Shix with S.N BB04916X.

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Hi Chris, just ran across this post and thought I'd join this this site. I have a Big Bore XTR serial # BB027XXX that I bought new in 1989. I've only shot 2 boxes of bullets in it and thought about using to hunt with next year. From reading this thread, I see that it was probably made much earlier, gues it was just in somebody's warehouse somewhere. It is a straight stock .375 but the interesting thing about it is that it has the oversized loop, don't know the official name but I call it the John Wayne loop. Glad to find this site, looks to have alot of great information.


A most interesting post! Questions about your .375. Do you have the original Winchester box? Is the large loop lever blue or gold plated? Does it have a saddle ring?


Thanks,

Jim
Winchester 94 collector
Winchester Arms Collectors Association


P.S. Yes, I have seen one from the factory with large loop lever. Winchester collectors rule #1: Never say never! About the time you say never you will find that they did.

I have most all the dates of manufacture from the start in 1894 to the end in 2006.

A most interesting post! Questions about your .375. Do you have the original Winchester box? Is the large loop lever blue or gold plated? Does it have a saddle ring?


Thanks,

Jim
Winchester 94 collector
Winchester Arms Collectors Association


P.S. Yes, I have seen one from the factory with large loop lever. Winchester collectors rule #1: Never say never! About the time you say never you will find that they did.

I have most all the dates of manufacture from the start in 1894 to the end in 2006.

Thanks for all the additional info fellas! I will get these added in tommorow. Jim...your info is much appreciated. I will get with you tommorow on some of this info. It's almost 1AM here so I'm giving up the ghost for now. Thanks again.

I think I got all of them added it. Nice pictures Andrew....has to be the nicest wood I've seen on these BB Wins. Also sorry I missed your reply post Strut. Gotta run but will get back with you.

I think I got all of them added it. Nice pictures Andrew....has to be the nicest wood I've seen on these BB Wins. ---
BTW, it may be just an optic illusion, but in the pictures the comb of Andrew's nice stock looks higher than on mine. Were there more variations than just straight and raised/Monte Carlo?

Old Sh.

BTW, it may be just an optic illusion, but in the pictures the comb of Andrew's nice stock looks higher than on mine. Were there more variations than just straight and raised/Monte Carlo?

Old Sh.

I thought i would let you all know that i have put some other images of my 375 BB on my web site, this time i took the images without flash so perhaps they look more realistic. See http://www.progalleries.com.au/en/Album/Cover.asp?A=990294

Andrew

I thought i would let you all know that i have put some other images of my 375 BB on my web site, this time i took the images without flash so perhaps they look more realistic. See http://www.progalleries.com.au/en/Album/Cover.asp?A=990294

Andrew
I was wrong about the stock - I had an illusion. :o

Pete

Picked up a close to immaculate XTR top eject, straight comb, 375BB yesterday. Only mark on it is a discolouration on the flat of the rubber butt plate from standing in a safe. If it has been fired, there are no wear marks to show for it, not even from cycling the action. Cost $450 AUD = $350 USD.

The Dealer said that the original owner thought that he bought it in 1980. I remembered this thread and thought I would add the serial number to your list.

BB010895

Regards

Snow.

I have
3 early - 94 AE big bores, 307 (AE155XX), 356 (AE130XX) & 375 (AE167XX). All three have the monte carlo stock, opposing front scopre base taps, WITH half cock safeties NOT rebounding hammers.
1- 307 (5621XXX) regular stock, inline scope base taps and rebounding hammer.
1- 356 (6216XXX) regular stock, inline scope base taps and cross-bolt safety
1- 356 (6450XXX) cross-bolt safety, that I am 99.99% sure has been modified (help here for conformation) it has a pistol grip stock (?) and rifle fore end not short carbine. No evidence of heat treatment of the upper or lower tangs.

I have seen top eject 375s with uncheckered monte carlo stocks.
Hope this helps some, let me know if you know about an actual factory 356 being produced. I don't think there was, but who knows. I have read and been told that win tuff 30-30 AE were only produced one year (one article said 1987) but I have two, one has a cross bolt safety (6084XXX) & the other a rebounding hammer only (5592XXX). Both of mine have the hooded fron sight, but I have seen pictures on GunBroker of both models with the dovetail blade front sights

Red
Hope this helps some.

My '94 BB top eject .375 is BB011183.
Never seen an Angle Eject in .375 down here.
I did have a couple of .30/30's in AE - never cared for them much.

Regards,
Kirby.

Take a look at this tread. Snow got one.

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=36813