A good friend has a Marlin 45-70 ordered & on the way. I have cast lots of lymans plain base 405 gr bullet. My question is what would make a nice mild target load with that bullet in that gun without using fillers?
Thanks ahead of time again.

A good friend has a Marlin 45-70 ordered & on the way. I have cast lots of lymans plain base 405 gr bullet. My question is what would make a nice mild target load with that bullet in that gun without using fillers?
Thanks ahead of time again.
Here are some nice plinker loads. http://www.gmdr.com/lever/4570g405_dat.htm

405 grain cast bullet 2.55" Maximum COL
31 grains IMR 4198 START
38 grains IMR 4198 MAXIMUM SANS GASCHECK
45 grains IMR 4198 MAXIMUM

405 grain LaserCast 2.535" COL
47 grains Reloder 10x MAXIMUM
50 grains BENCHMARK MAXIMUM
42 grains Reloder 7 MAXIMUM

405 grain Cast Performance LFNGC 2.55" COL
49.2 grains AA2015 1817 fps 27,400 PSI
53.5 grains AA2230 1978 fps MAXIMUM 38,700 PSI

405 grain Cast LFP 2.54" COL
50.0 Varget 1718 fps 20,900 CUP
48.0 H4895 1645 fps 18,900 CUP
50.0 Benchmark 1695 fps 22,600 CUP
31.0 H4198 1459 fps 17,100 CUP
49.5 IMR 4064 1660 fps 23,200 CUP
48.5 IMR 4895 1598 fps 23,000 CUP
48.5 IMR 3031 1706 fps 21,100 CUP
32.0 IMR 4198 1462 fps 19,000 CUP
13.0 Trail Boss 1007 fps 25,600 CUP

Mike,
The load I’m using in the postal match;
Rem. - brass
CCI BR-2, primer
28gr. - H4198
405gr Laser Cast PB sized 0.459”

This is a “Trapdoor Load”, not much recoil at all, even you could shoot it… ;)

Mike,
The load I’m using in the postal match;
Rem. - brass
CCI BR-2, primer
28gr. - H4198
405gr Laser Cast PB sized 0.459”

This is a “Trapdoor Load”, not much recoil at all, even you could shoot it… ;)
Kinda like shooting my 25-35 ???

Kinda like shooting my 25-35 ???

I wouldn’t go that far Mike, the recoil is more of just a “slow push” as compared to the normal crack…Load-up a few and make JB shoot them… :p
The site jackfish gave is a good one too, as are his loads. I’m just a newbie with the 45/70 loading…
BTW- nice shooting in the match Mike.. ;)

I wouldn’t go that far Mike, the recoil is more of just a “slow push” as compared to the normal crack…Load-up a few and make JB shoot them… :p
The site jackfish gave is a good one too, as are his loads. I’m just a newbie with the 45/70 loading…
BTW- nice shooting in the match Mike.. ;)
Thanks! I have an old original TrapDoor Carbine I haven't shot for a while. When I am loading these for my buddy I'll have to try a few.

BTW I went to the gun shop that has several of your .444s at pretty reasonable prices fully intending to buy one. I ran into a problem though, he had a beautiful Savage Model 99R 300 sav on the rack and it came home instead. I already shot it and it shows signs of being a shooter. I just can't keep money in my pocket, there are too many good toys out there. I guess I have to start building up the funds again and hope the .444's are still there for a while. :)

My brother brought his Ruger 45-70 over not long ago for me to try. He had some pipsqueak 400 grain bullet loads. Three shots was plenty. I'll stick with my 32-20. :D