Hey guys I got a bit of a complicated question for you. I just got my hands on a cherry savage 99 in .308 It came with a nice, bright, older Burris Fullfied 4x scope mounted in a Leupold base in Leupold rings. Notice this is an older Fullfield 4x not a Fullfield II 4x. Here is the problem: I have to snug up to much on the stock to get a good sight picture. The scope is as far back in the rings as it will go and I still need some more eye relief. Does anyone here know the eye relief these older burris fullfied scopes came with? If there are some offset rings that might work I'd be interested in those. Thanks in advance.

Hey guys I got a bit of a complicated question for you. I just got my hands on a cherry savage 99 in .308 It came with a nice, bright, older Burris Fullfied 4x scope mounted in a Leupold base in Leupold rings. Notice this is an older Fullfield 4x not a Fullfield II 4x. Here is the problem: I have to snug up to much on the stock to get a good sight picture. The scope is as far back in the rings as it will go and I still need some more eye relief. Does anyone here know the eye relief these older burris fullfied scopes came with? If there are some offset rings that might work I'd be interested in those. Thanks in advance.

Matt
I'm sorry that I don't have details,but I know that scope rings are available that lean foreward or backward,as you need.
Frank

Look,

The best advice I can give you is to get rid of that old scope and BUY a new one.

Money wasted on scope mounts - to offset the amount of eye relief is not the right way to fix your problem.

Deer season is not for another 5 or 6 more months, so you have plenty of time to save your money and do it right.

A 4 power scope is not any good for target shooting and predator hunting. You would be better off with a 3 x 9 or a 4 x 12 scope on a 308 Winchester.

I got a little confused by your description. You said you have to snug up (get closer) to the scope, and that the scope was as far back (as near the shooter) as possible. Yet you also said you want more eye-relief (to put the scope further from the shooter). Since these changes suggest opposite directions, I am not clear which way you are actually trying to move the scope? If it is away from the shooter, try just puting differnt thickness of pads between your shoulder and the butt stock to see how far you have to get away from the scope to get a good view? You want to see a full field of view with no black penumbra around the image, then to adjust the focus with your eye in that position. If the pads then correct your spacing you will know if you can find rings that move the scope that far forward or not.

You might have to find a longer tubed scope, the kind that just happens to be out of favor now by manufacturers. The longest tubes I know of now are the fixed 4x and 6x scopes by Leupold. Leupold also makes extended rings that will enable you to move the scope further back.
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I got a little confused by your description. You said you have to snug up (get closer) to the scope, and that the scope was as far back (as near the shooter) as possible. Yet you also said you want more eye-relief (to put the scope further from the shooter). Since these changes suggest opposite directions, I am not clear which way you are actually trying to move the scope? If it is away from the shooter, try just puting differnt thickness of pads between your shoulder and the butt stock to see how far you have to get away from the scope to get a good view? You want to see a full field of view with no black penumbra around the image, then to adjust the focus with your eye in that position. If the pads then correct your spacing you will know if you can find rings that move the scope that far forward or not.

Nick,

The way I understand his description of his problem is that he is wanting a mount that will move the scope back closer to him so he does not have to crawl up the stock of the gun to get a good sight picture.

The way I understand his description. . .

I think you're right. He actually wants less eye-relief for this scope, and not more, unless he plans to replace the scope? I hate the up-close-and-personal scopes. Have eyebrowed myself a couple of times over the years. Offset rings sound like the only option to keep this scope and stock combination working for him.

I think you're right. He actually wants less eye-relief for this scope, and not more, unless he plans to replace the scope? I hate the up-close-and-personal scopes. Have eyebrowed myself a couple of times over the years. Offset rings sound like the only option to keep this scope and stock combination working for him.


Well Kanas has it right. I need to either be able to physically move the scope backwards, so I don't have to crawl the stock (which I can't do b/c the scope is already as far back in the rings as possible) or I need a replacement scope with longer eye relief to solve the problem. I only need abou .5-1 inch more eye relief to make everything just right.

As someone mentioned offset rings will solve my problem just fine. And don't worry I don't plan on varmit hunting, or doing to much paper punching with my '99, so the 4x will do just fine for my needs. :rolleyes:

However if a good deal on a 2x7 rolls around I might jump. Other than that I'm saving up for a VX-II 2x7, just in no hurry. For years hunters used 4x scopes to take all kinds of big game out to 300yards. I think they were better hunters and shots that most of us are today. We have come to rely to heavly on technology to do it for us.

Matt, I like the older Burris Fullfields. Very good scopes. They do tend to have less eye relief than a similar Leupold so that is something that you have to be concious of. I've got a Savage 99 in 308 and I put a Leupold Vari X II c 2-7x33 on it in QR mounts. I realy like it.

One of the biggest issues with the Burris Fullfield is that the adjustment turret is not in the center of the tube. It is forward of center, so that does make a difference in your mounting options.

So you need to have the scope come further back for you? Or you need it to go forward? I'm still not sure i understand. I do think that you are right, offset rings is going to be the way to go.

Just so you know, that Burris has a lifetime warranty even if you bought it used. I just put a 3-9x40 Fullfield on that Rem 700 300 H&H I found.

ya mike, I need the scope to phisically come back, towards the butt. Or get a scope with longer eye relief. For now my solution is going to be to get an offset front ring so the scope can come back a little. Meanwhile I'm saving up for a VXII 2x7