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KenK
04-02-2008, 03:35 PM
A sad day for me, I don't weigh powder much less bullets and brass. I'm gonna have to try it though.

I've read most of the threads here about electronic scales but I don't know if there might be a better choice for heavier weights. I suppose my 50 grain bullets aren't as heavy as some powder charges guys are throwing.

Any tips on methodology would also be appreciated. For the bullets anyway I figured I would test a sample and see how the bell curve looked and then sort by x many groups and throw the ones lighter or heavier than those groups away.

m141a
04-02-2008, 04:03 PM
I used the Midway scale they had for sale a few years back. They were made By Ohaus at that time. I get as close as my measure will throw, then trickle the rest in with a Midway powder trickle, which is powered by two AA batteries. Powder is trickled into the pan that came with the scale, and then into the funnel on the top of the casing. Bullet placed righ on the casings....Time consuming, but accurate and no double charges....


Is this the type of info you are looking for ken?

best,

KenK
04-02-2008, 04:14 PM
Is this the type of info you are looking for ken?

best,

No, sir.
I want to sort my brass and bullets, by weight, into lots.

m141a
04-02-2008, 04:21 PM
oh, ok,...

I do that too, the Midway scale does work fine for the job.

I do it with 308 cases, and 168 grain bullets, for my match rifles and L/R bolt action.

I've developed no science to it, just try to getbullet/brass lots of 10 or 20 as close as possible, then load them to as close as possible.

Jack Monteith
04-02-2008, 09:09 PM
My PACT Digital Precision Powder Scale has a capacity of 1500 grains. Weighing cases and bullets is much faster than on a balance beam scale. If I'm weighing home cast bullets, I'll pick an acceptable weight range and toss the outliers back in the pot. Store-bought bullets and brass gets grouped into weight ranges. Sometimes you find some real outliers. One batch of .35 Remington brass had 4 cases that were close in weight but several grins lighter than the rest and 30 grains lighter than one. It had some drill swarf tightly coiled against the inside of the case, but was OK once I fished it out.

Bye
Jack

mattsbox99
04-20-2008, 07:28 PM
I bought the Cabelas scale, 1500 grain capacity, made by Ohaus as well.

simcoe
04-22-2008, 12:22 PM
I'm a little confused, which in itself is not a totally unnatural state, if you're weighing these for reloading that makes sense to me, but you state you've never weighed powder either? I can see by your signature you obviously know what you're doing so how do you go about your powder charges?

unclenick
04-22-2008, 01:33 PM
I think Ken means he doesn't weigh charges individually. Just to set up the measure.

Lots of folks have the Lee scale with its 100 grain limit. Weighing bullets and brass takes a higher capacity for anything over .223. If you want to figure out the water weight capacity of cases, you need still more headroom. 300 grain capacity is a better minimum. On the electronic scales, the higher the capacity the more rugged it will be, too. I like the Aculab VIC123 sold by Sinclair, with its 1860 grain capacity, mostly because it has a metal load cell instead of the hysteresis-prone plastic about everyone else is using, but its price is about $300.

If you go to weighing, you'll quickly discover that you don't get a bell curve from most manufacturers, but rather get several distinct lumps; one for every set of tooling the product came off of that was mixed later. It is a good way to try to sort stuff by tooling source. You will find a fair amount of overlap, though.

Just take a large sheet of blotter-size graph paper and mark off from the lowest weight to the highest across the bottom. Place each bullet over its own weight. A second bullet of the same weight goes above the first one, and so on, until all bullets of the same weight form a line above that weight. The height of the lines form the bars of the histogram, and you then have the joy of sorting the obvious toolmates and segregating the overlappers and end samples out for practice.

al_sway
04-22-2008, 06:55 PM
What UncleNick said. That is the system that I use for cast bullets in my .45-70, and it quickly becomes evident where the majority of the bullet weights are. Then it is up to you to decide how much of a variation you are willing to accept.
I am assuming you are weighing cast bullets. The above assumes that you have already sorted them out visually to good specimens.
If you really want to sort them by lots, for cast bullets, you need to separate them into groups by the size of your alloy melt. If you have a large, homogeneous lot of alloy, then the whole bunch could be one lot for weighing and sorting. At one time my alloys were a bit of a mongrel, and I would sort out a lot by the good bullets that I cast from one pot of lead. For .45-70, that would generally be about 50-60 good bullets. That was one lot that I kept separate for loading and firing.

Mike Buchanan
04-23-2008, 04:26 PM
I use the RCBS RangeMaster750 all the time. Paid around 100 bucks for it but it's been terrific and I've been using it 2 or 3 years. It runs on 110 volt or at the range on a 9v battery.

Kragman71
04-23-2008, 04:44 PM
I also have the Midway scae.I use it to weigh the brass that I deem necessary to weigh;and all bullets.Of the bullets that I have purchesed,only Sierra bullets are close in weight.
My powder is weighed on a balance beam scale,and then measured in one of my three powder measures.
Frank