Just tuned in to this forum and was reading some interesting posts about handloads for the 35Reminbgton Marlin 336.

I have an early 336SC with Ballard rifling. I've been trying to work up some handloads using the Remington 200-grain RN and Hornady's equivalent. So far, 38.5 grains of H4895 and 39.5 grains Varget do not show much promise. Reloader 7 gives slightly better results at 31.5-33 grains, but still nothing to get excited about.

I wonder if I any of you have suggestions before I venture off with other powders and waste more bullets. I saw posts mentioning IMR3031 and 4064, but didn't notice if these were for Micro-groove or Ballard barrels. Seems like it would make a difference.

Eventually I want to try cast bullets, but for the time being I have only the 200-grain jacketed ones to work with.

Will appreciate any input.

Welcome to the forum Boltman. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

You might check out our Loadswap.com section at the top of the page and also do a search on the forum and check out the simular posts at the bottom of the page. We've talked about loading for the 35 a lot here. Lots of levergun guys on the forum.

We also have some good articles over in our Tech section in the Beartooth bullet tab at the top of the page.

Welcome to the forum Boltman. Here are some factory pressure equivalent loads that I have posted before. They should give you a good idea for different powders. Do check loadswap out though. Lots of good info.
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vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2520</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">40.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,222</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4320</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">38.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,159</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2460</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,140</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Alliant</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">RL-12</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,049</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4064</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,031</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2015</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,199</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">180</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2230</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,153</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Winchester</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">W-748</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">41.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,049</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2520</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">39.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,140</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Hodgdon</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">H-335</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">38.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,206</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4320</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,093</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2460</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,074</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Alliant</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">RL-12</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">37.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,021</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4064</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">36.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,989</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2015</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">36.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,070</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4895</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">36.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,048</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Hornady roundnose</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-3031</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">34.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">2,011</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Winchester</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">W-760</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">41.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,872</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Hodgdon</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">H-414</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">40.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,874</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Winchester</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">W-748</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">36.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,928</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">Accurate </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">AAC-2520</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">35.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,899</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4064</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">34.0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,861</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR vAlign=top><TD colSpan=6><TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="8%">220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="26%">Speer flat point</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="22%">IMR-4320</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">32.5</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="11%">1,787</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Thanks, Idaho Bob for the welcome. I have been reading and studying your suggestions. This site is a great source of useful information.

Jodum, I appreciate you posting that comprehensive table of loads. Should be something in there that will give good results. Do you have any idea which powder and how much of it Remington loads in their factory 200-grain CL round?

Possibly I should have posted this thread under the Marlin 336 department. If someone wants to move it over there, that would be fine. I am not much of an operator when it comes to computers.

I use the IMR 4064 load of 36.5 gr with a Sierra 200 grain RN bullet in my 35 Rem. It comes out of my 336 (micro groove rifling) at around 2000 fps and keeps around 1 inch at 100 yards. I have not tried to beat this. I plan on introducing Mr. Bambi to this load this year. I have some of the 200 gr Sierras loaded with H4895 but have not had time to test them.

I've also had good results with TAC powder, both in velocity and group size with the Rem 200 grn Core Lokt RN.