i want to buy progressive dies to make casing from brass strip
right now i need 380 acp and 45 acp later i will need 9mm luger and several rifle ammo 223 7.62*39 308 etc
can anyone help? we got an extensive machine shop with cnc equipment of all sorts and if we cannot find the dies for sale we could make them if we can find the table with the dimensions for each die in the several stations that are needed to make a case . we have a manufacturing facility that runs 24 hrs/day 7 days/week and decided that we need to get into the ammo mfg business
can anyone help?
we are prepared to pay well
my email address is aldo@easyliner.com

Welcome to the forum. Rules are to join in, have fun, be polite and play nicely with the rest of us kids. More rules are in the stickies in the general forum.

The forming dies you describe are mostly stamping press dies. Probably made from high chromium air hardening tool steel these days. Double-heat treated tool steel used to be used. The brass starts as a roll of 70:30 cartridge brass that is die cut into discs that are first drawn into cups. The number of steps and the amount of draw at each stage and the stamping of the primer pocket, the punching of the flashhole, rolling of the extractor groove, and even of the headstamp marks all contribute to work hardening the casehead and sidewalls to the right degree. Without that, the cases can be too soft and burst. Overdo it and they can be too brittle and crack and split. It is important to keep in mind that case brass is the chamber's gasket seal in that it usually is not 100% surrounded by steel and has to prevent pressure leaks through any gaps or omissions in coverage.

There is quite a bit of forming done by wildcater's, but not of caseheads. They start with parent brass that has that part already made. It is the hard part.

Hatcher's Notebook tells a little about the process and covers the correction of an error found at one armory's factory. Today there are a number of smaller operations like Starline and Scharch Manufacturing (Top Brass) who are good. Perhaps you could get a tour of one of their plants to see what equipment is currently used? Corbin may be able to tell you something about it, since they make bullet forming dies they may also know something about brass forming dies? If you don't intend to get into the business you may find the tooling costs prohibitive, but you could probably also skip high speed stamping in favor of a slower hydraulic press of some sort?

Wow I've been doing this for a long long time and what the heck are ya talken 'bout....:D

I just happy to get the primers in straight, to the proper depth, the brass ready to go and the boolits filled out lookin pertly :p, the OAL, ETC. and the load worked up to make my gun of the hour work on the target.... so that beer at the end of the day has some stories to be shared!

But what ever your doing do it soon so we have MORE Brass:cool:

Here you will find civilians who re manufacture fired cases into reloaded ammo. You are talking way over the head of everyone I know with one exception (now gone) who worked for Hornady. Hornady got started reloading surplus military. He told me he once had .270 made from surplus .30/'06 cases. Then they were buying cases out of Europe. Norma? I think. Don't know if even now they make what they sell. Big tooling from what I understand to make cases.

I would suggest that you go to the ammo makers. Hornady is one possiblity. Obviously, Remington, Winchester, Federal, and the Canadians... thru Speer? Cannuck... CIL. They might be willing to sell you the info, but other than that one brush with a Hornady employee I got "nothin'". Luck.

check with corbin they make all kinds of dies for jacket making and might be able to help you. i know their jacket making dies for strip copper are 5000.00 or more for the auto presses








brass strip
right now i need 380 acp and 45 acp later i will need 9mm luger and several rifle ammo 223 7.62*39 308 etc
can anyone help? we got an extensive machine shop with cnc equipment of all sorts and if we cannot find the dies for sale we could make them if we can find the table with the dimensions for each die in the several stations that are needed to make a case . we have a manufacturing facility that runs 24 hrs/day 7 days/week and decided that we need to get into the ammo mfg business
can anyone help?
we are prepared to pay well
my email address is aldo@easyliner.com[/quote]

I should add that if you want case dimension details, you can order that information (http://saami.org/Publications/) on CD from SAAMI. $90 gets you the whole collection.