Do you know if there are any projects by any manufacturer to make a levergun in .500S&W?

I know that existe in single shot rifle, but in levergun....?

Thanks!

.......that Wild West Guns will/does chamber in .500S&W. I know he chambers in 50 Alaskan and that is at the high end of the power scale in a lever.

The 500S&W would be interesting though, cuz it could have a fairly short action if the weapon is made from scratch.

I have a 16" carbine chambered in .454Casull and in a <6lb rifle,my stout loaded 335 and 360grainers is 'bout all your shoulder can take. -----pruhdlr

someone makes a pump action, but can not remember who makes it [custom].no lever actions so far, wild west guns said they were going to start selling 1, but nothing has ever come of it. i am shure for the right money someone could make 1 from scratch.

One more time. With all due respect to pruhdlr, Wild West built a prototype for the .500 and listed it for a time, but it has not been listed on their website for about a year now. The Wild West .50 Alaskan is built on the 1895 action (not the 1894) and operates at lower pressures than the .500S&W generates.

At present, the .500 cannot be used in an existing levergun action. It is far too long for either the Marlin 94 (which also cannot operate at the .500 pressures) or Winchester (Rossi,Chiappa) 92 action. With its larger case diameter, it would leave very little metal in the frame/barrel juncture for safety and increases case head thrust on the locking bolts. Chambering it in the larger 1895 action is a no-no since that action will not handle the pressures. Ditto for the Winchester 1894. The only remote possibility may be (I have not taken measurments) the Browning BLR. It all depends on the amount of metal remaining in the barrel after chambering and the ability to create a functioning box magazine for the round.

Without designing a totally new lever action around this cartridge, from scratch, and with the .500 being a "special interest" round for a limited number of enthusiasts and the reality being that it is highly unlikely that there would be enough sales potential to support any type of effort requiring this much investment in research, development and tooling for any manufacturer to even consider, so for now, I see the .500 levergun as a distant dream for a curious few.

One more time. With all due respect to pruhdlr, Wild West built a prototype for the .500 and listed it for a time, but it has not been listed on their website for about a year now. The Wild West .50 Alaskan is built on the 1895 action (not the 1894) and operates at lower pressures than the .500S&W generates.

At present, the .500 cannot be used in an existing levergun action. It is far too long for either the Marlin 94 (which also cannot operate at the .500 pressures) or Winchester (Rossi,Chiappa) 92 action. With its larger case diameter, it would leave very little metal in the frame/barrel juncture for safety and increases case head thrust on the locking bolts. Chambering it in the larger 1895 action is a no-no since that action will not handle the pressures. Ditto for the Winchester 1894. The only remote possibility may be (I have not taken measurments) the Browning BLR. It all depends on the amount of metal remaining in the barrel after chambering and the ability to create a functioning box magazine for the round.

Without designing a totally new lever action around this cartridge, from scratch, and with the .500 being a "special interest" round for a limited number of enthusiasts and the reality being that it is highly unlikely that there would be enough sales potential to support any type of effort requiring this much investment in research, development and tooling for any manufacturer to even consider, so for now, I see the .500 levergun as a distant dream for a curious few.

Good info. I'm one of those "curious few" and would love a carbine version to go with my handgun. I don't get that part about length though. The 30/30 is far and away longer than the .500.

Most people want the .500 to fit in a "pistol caliber" carbine such as the Marlin 94 or Win 92 (as the .454 does in the Rossi) and it just won't go. There is no reason to use the longer Marlin 336, 1895 or Winchester 1894 since none have the required strength in reserve. I guess that one could possibly use the Winchester 1886 design made of different metals and heat treatments, but again, the price becomes a serious question.

Blackhawk44
Your exactly right the 500 S&W is just to big lenght wise and to big around to be chambered in a lever. Not enough metal left to safely hold the pressure! The 336 action isn't wide enough to even feed the fat 500! The '94 just are not strong enough! Agreed if someone made a modern '88 lever it could be done as they were chambered in the long 50-110! But they were heavy guns! So if you like a 9 pound lever gun that would be to only option.

just curious but how can the .500 be too fat but the .50 alaskan works fine in the 336 action?

My thought(s) are that the .50Alaskan works outta a 1895 action because of the lower chamber pressures. Quite a bit lower than the .50S&W Mag. (Case head thrust)

The actual bbl size(OD/ID) would be no problem with a half inch hole. -----pruhdlr

I have a 16" carbine chambered in .454Casull and in a <6lb rifle,my stout loaded 335 and 360grainers is 'bout all your shoulder can take. -----pruhdlr

I know everyone says 'there's a 45/70 so we don't need one...' but I'd still like to see a nice lever in .460 to go w/ my XVR. Maybe with a recoil pad.... :D;)

rnr (http://shootersforum.com/member.htm?u=24478)
I think the 460 is to long for the '92 action? I have a 454 Puma and its tight as far as ejection of spent/loaded cases! Max OAL is 1.690"! Yet just looked at the OAL for 460 at over 2+" it will not work in a '92 action so your SOL!:rolleyes:

I have a 500 S&W in an Encore carbine. It pushes a 460gr boolit out at over 2000fps. Recoil is stout...