As you can tell by the attached image, I reference this book a lot. 60 different cartridges and articles from 8mm to 600 Nitro are covered, including many wildcats and obsolete chamberings.

Lots of technical and historical data included as well as appropriate firearms discussions. Published in 1991 from Wolfe Publishing Co.

Some articles that may be of particular interest to those here at Beartooth (due to the requests of info for certain chamberings) are the 35 Whelen, 375 Whelen, 338-06, 400 Brown Whelen, 348 Win, 450 Alaskan, 50 Alaskan, 38-55 and 375 Winchester.

Highly recommended for anyone shooting 8mm's or larger bores.

As you can tell by the attached image, I reference this book a lot. 60 different cartridges and articles from 8mm to 600 Nitro are covered, including many wildcats and obsolete chamberings.

Lots of technical and historical data included as well as appropriate firearms discussions. Published in 1991 from Wolfe Publishing Co.

Some articles that may be of particular interest to those here at Beartooth (due to the requests of info for certain chamberings) are the 35 Whelen, 375 Whelen, 338-06, 400 Brown Whelen, 348 Win, 450 Alaskan, 50 Alaskan, 38-55 and 375 Winchester.

Highly recommended for anyone shooting 8mm's or larger bores.

After spending all summer in Alaska,I now understand why you sourdoughs are big-bore fans.
Does this book have any info/recommended loads on the .35 and .405 Winchesters?

There are articles and loads for the 35 Remington, 358 Winchester and the 405. Very good book, and I still see it at gunshows and on the internet for sale.

Have had it gracing my gunroom reference shelf for several years now.

Got mine when it came out,very good information to say the least.
Jack

This has proven to be a fairly useful reference, as well as decent reading. Alyeska338, what kind of velocities have you attained with the Hawk. It would be kind of interesting to compare it to a .400 Brown-Whelen. I'm sure there isn't much difference, but interesting none the less.

kciH,
Sorry it took me so long to respond. My load development for the Hawk has gone through spits and sputters. Winter hasn't helped much either.

I have chrono'ed a few of the fireforming loads, which are running between 58,000 and 60,000 psi. Out of the 22" Douglas Premium barrel, the 350 grain Swift A Frames and Barnes X's are running roughly 2425 and 2350+ fps. 400 grain Woodleighs are hovering between 2,050 and 2,100 fps. I haven't chronoed a lot of rounds, most are coming from 6 shot groups, so may not be a significant enough number. Also, these are all fireforming loads, not sure what the fireformed brass will give me.

These figures appear to be a little slower than the Brown-Whelen in this book, but since I'm running mine through a lever gun with a shorter barrel, compared to Kronfeld's M77, I'm right about where I was hoping.

Just received a few boxes of North Fork's 360 grain bullets and will load these up in another month or so. If accuracy is good with these bullets, I will use these to cut the folding leaf sights on the rifle.

Alyeska,
that's a lot of power in a rifle of that size. My main interest was to compare it to the .405, it's looks as though it handily outperforms it velocity-wise. I've seen data that suggests the .405 can produce 2400fps with a 300gr bullets, excepting the X-bullet. I've seen no data for heavier bullets or any other pointed bullets..if they are suitable in the rifle in question. I'd really had to mess up the bluing in order to hook a Oehler strain gauge up to the rifle.

You know, I'm not sure the Hawk outperforms the 405 that much. From what I've been able to find for data shows the capacities are really pretty similar. Using the heavier bullets the Hawk does have a bit of a capacity edge, it seems, though. However, I don't think the 405 loads are anywhere near as high-pressure as the Hawk loads. Loaded to like pressures, I don't think there would be enough difference, at least FIELD performance, to even notice. I certainly don't think there is enough of a difference to warrant the expense of rebarreling...

When I decided to have mine converted to the Hawk, I had no idea that Winchester would reintroduce the 405 less than a year later!!! Not that I'm complaining, I really like my rifle, and would have probably done it anyway. I really the experimenting of the of the wildcat, though the one case failure did scare the bejeebers out of me.

I really do think the 1895 needs a different sight system, whether that be a side mounted peep sight or express sights like I have. I think the express sights are ideal for my use of this rifle. When I get all the brass fireformed, I will likely reduce pressures a bit. I don't like the idea of running the ragged edge when hunting around big bears. That's just asking for trouble.

The 405 should be able to handle the 325 grain bullets okay, but I don't know about the 350's, they may take up too much powder space. North Fork is making some excellent bullets designed for the Hawk and Winchester 405 velocities. I believe they worth experimenting with in the least. The Barnes bullets create a couple of different problems that I've noticed, all of which are because of their longer than standard length for weight. One they eat up more case space than a conventional type bullet of the same weight, reducing powder capacity for the given weight. The other is the Winchester slanted box really limits COAL and is further compromised by the long X bullet. Another thing, Barnes recommends seating the X around 0.50" off the lands to alleviate the higher pressure issues that seem unique to long monometal bullets. That further restricts the COAL. On the other hand, the 300 X, because it is monometal AND long, should give excellent penetrating qualities. For me, I'm going to try to stick with the Woodleigh 400 grain and North Fork 360 grain. Hawk is making bullets of nearly any weight and jacket thickness you could want, but much like the X, some folks have had excellent results, others have had dismal failures. I don't want to use a bullet that might or might not work.

If you decide to pick up a 405 or have an 1895 converted to the 400 Brown-Whelen or 411 Hawk, and you want to try the X bullets, I've got quite a few in 300, 325, 350, and 400 grain weights that I could be persuaded to get rid of.

Does it cover the Cordite loads or the turn of the past century bore rifles' loads?

You might enjoy reading this article about converting a gun to shoot the 577.

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~orrs/GreenerStory.htm

Note the ballistics of the cartridge below - 650gr @ 1950fps! Not bad for the day (1910 catalog page). ;)

http://www.huntershouse.dk/vaaben/hh_brochure/HH-kat.-1910--52_l.gif

I think there are a few cordite loads covered. I know there are several blackpowder loads. Generally speaking, though, many of older British "obsolete" cartridges are not reviewed, while a lot of the American "obsolete" cartridges are.

Either way, it is a great resource. I suspect you can probably find much of what is written in the book posted hither and yon on the internet now, at least the loads. But I doubt the stories, reasons for development, or history of their research are. Finding that information is interesting to me, and having it in one location, easily accessed, is a plus.

Alyeska,
have you seen this sight that Buffalo Arms is selling? It looks like a good match for the 95, depending on how durable it is in the field with the adjustment lever. http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/4,3184.html

I haven't seen that one (well not till I looked at the link you provided!). I had an opportunity to pick up one of the old Lyman sights for the 95 a while back, but decided against it because I already had the Express sight arrangement. It would be interesting to try though.

I like receiver sights alot, but for what this rifle is going to be used for, I feel the express V's are a little better. That's just a personal decision, and what works for one person may not for the next. I did pick up a tang sight for light target loads and will start working with it this summer. Might be a nice compliment for longer range targets.

Here's some more books you might really enjoy - and best of all, they're FREE! Just download and read - EASY PEASY!

http://www.gutenberg.net/

These books are by noted explorer Sir Samuel White Baker (1821-1893) during the British Empire Period... Just type his name into the search block on the Gutenberg link and it will return the list shown below. Click on the one you want to read and voila'!! Ready to go read 'til you can't keep your head up. ;) I read book #8 first, and really enjoyed his stories about hunting the Rocky Mountains with the commercial hunters of the period before the Civil War...

The author discusses the guns of the period, right up to 1890 and the "Battery of Arms" a Gentleman might take for an expedition to Africa (Safare is a much later term).

Albert N'Yanza, Great Basin Of The Nile, The
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

Cyprus, As I Saw It In 1879
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

Eight Years' Wanderings In Ceylon
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2000

In The Heart Of Africa
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: May 2002

Ismailia
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

Nile tributaries of Abyssinia, and the sword hunters of the Hamran arabs, The
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Mar 2000

Rifle And The Hound In Ceylon, The
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: May 2002

Wild Beasts And Their Ways, Reminiscences Of Europe, Asia, Africa And America -- Volume 1
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

GOOD LUCK! ;)

Gowge,
You may want to check this thread at AR http://www.accuratereloading.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=628505&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&fpart=1

Couple of these guys are building 4 bores.

Gowge,
You may want to check this thread at AR http://www.accuratereloading.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=628505&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=21&fpart=1

Couple of these guys are building 4 bores.

That's real interesting - they're building repeaters - not just single shot or doubles! ;) Looks like a pump action. Says it only weighs ten (10lbs!) pounds! Like most 4bores, it's under an inch bore - not really a full 4bore - more like a 5bore I guess....

http://www.gunownerstv.com/bigbore.jpg

We got Big Al's barrel and bolt, and got the following info
figured out, on what to do with the Tula 4 bore pumpguns.
The 4 locking lugs have a rating of 18,000 lbs thrust, as they aren't real big, but they are hardened properly. And the end of the barrel where they lock in is hardened right. That is good for 10k loads with brass cases. The bore is .938, the front or neck of chamber is 1.044,base is 1.052, length to start of the forcing cone from breech end is 3.13, and forcing cone is .40 in long. It is set up for a paper case that is shorter than the Gevelot 4 bore case that Mike in UP has.
His is 3.9 inches long. Collectors have small numbers.


The other demensions are the same as the 4 bore Gevelot case. Gevelot cases were imported from France. Trouble is we can't find any supply of Gevelot 4bore paper cases to cut off to use in the Tula's. To make brass from 20 mm for this, means a hydraulic press and 2 inch hardened dies. To make chamber bigger to use my 4 bore case means chamber would end up too thin. It is a light barrel to start with.There is not enough room in reciever to put in a heavy barrel and bolt with bigger based lugs.But we found a solution. Turned brass cases good for 30k in 4 bore size, which you can't load to in this gun anyway.

Talked to Dave at Rocky Mtn Cartridge and he will build some. In fact he just got a request for some from a Tula owner in MO, who sent him a chamber cast,which was good enough to get him chamber size. He needed rim thickness for headspace which I gave him today. It is .100 between bolt face and end of the barrel. The barrel has a slant or chamfer in about .040. Case loaded length must be no longer than 2- 7/8 inches to feed from tube mag and follower/lifter.He will build cases to be paper thickness. Al is going to get some of these cases, and anyone who has a Tula who wants to get
cases to fire their guns contact me or Rocky Mtn, as he will be buildin them in a few weeks. Once we get those cases we can figure out shot and ball/bullet loads. Will have to be shotgun style loads as the barrel is too thin for big volumnes of rifle powder with a long high pressure curve.
We will get places to find wads, shotcups, bullets etc. They will use regular 209 shotgun primers.Here is picture of Al's gun again.Ed.

Came across this page when looking for more info on TULA guns....

http://home.btconnect.com/Herewardbooks/guns.htm


520 McDougall Douglas More 8 Bore Loads. 1981. 1st Edn. published in Great Yarmouth. 124 pages. illus, diagrams, card covers, vg. £20.00

They're apparently specialists in sporting books of all kinds.


GOOD LUCK!