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22 cheetah
01-10-2004, 07:53 PM
I need some advice , I have a Savage Short Action off of a model 12 with accue trigger. The bolt face is for 22-250 . Iam wanting to rebarrel the action to .223 WSSM. I looked on Midway USA website for a bolt face and they do have them for the WSM 270, 7mm with the small retaining pin hole .100 thousands. I measured the retaining pin hole I thought they were talking about on my bolt and it measures .150 Thousands. This is a project Iam doing myself so I need any advice i can get.

Thanks

bhaden
01-11-2004, 06:30 PM
I need some advice , I have a Savage Short Action off of a model 12 with accue trigger. The bolt face is for 22-250 . Iam wanting to rebarrel the action to .223 WSSM. I looked on Midway USA website for a bolt face and they do have them for the WSM 270, 7mm with the small retaining pin hole .100 thousands. I measured the retaining pin hole I thought they were talking about on my bolt and it measures .150 Thousands. This is a project Iam doing myself so I need any advice i can get.

Thanks


Do you know how big the bolt face needs to be on the .223 WSSM? And where are you planning on getting a barrel for the .223 WSSM?

22 cheetah
01-11-2004, 07:30 PM
Savage Arms chambers 270 WSM in the model 12 .The WSSM cartridge is a shorten version of the WSM cartridges so the WSM bolt head on a Savage 270 WSM model 12 rifle should work for a .223 Wssm chambering in a model 12 Savage. Thats my Question will it work

I will have a barrel chambered for it with 1 & 9 twist

bhaden
01-11-2004, 08:38 PM
Savage Arms chambers 270 WSM in the model 12 .The WSSM cartridge is a shorten version of the WSM cartridges so the WSM bolt head on a Savage 270 WSM model 12 rifle should work for a .223 Wssm chambering in a model 12 Savage. Thats my Question will it work

I will have a barrel chambered for it with 1 & 9 twist

Ah, I see. I didn't know that the WSM was the parent to the WSSM cartridges. I have no idea if it will work or not, although if the bolt face is the same, it should work fine.

The only thing I'd say is check the threads on your 270 WSM barrel and receiver for there size, pitch, etc., because I read somewhere (can't remember where now. Sorry.) that the Savage 270 WSM and 300 WSM receivers were threaded at a different angle and with a larger shank than the usual Savage 110 receivers. If that's ture, whoever is cutting your barrel would need to match your barrel threads to your receiver rather than the normal 110 size. I do switch barrel stuff on my Savages, and had a chance to get a nice stainless 300 WSM for cheap recently, but passed because the strange thread size scared me off. I wanted a receiver that would take all my other Savage barrels. Check out www.switchbarrel.com. E-mail the guy who runs that site. He's very helpful and might know more.

22 cheetah
01-12-2004, 04:37 PM
Thanks, bhaden The WSSM cartridge's use the same case head and body diameter specs as the WSM Cartridge's so I figured the Savage bolt head for WSM would work on the WSSM cartridges. Just wanted to hear it from someone else. As for the barrel I'll have it threaded for a Savage model 12 Action.

Thanks for the website I will check it out !!

bhaden
01-12-2004, 05:08 PM
As for the barrel I'll have it threaded for a Savage model 12 Action.


I'd still say get your receiver threads' pitch and size checked. All Savage model 110, 111, 112, 116, 10, 11, 12 and 16 are the exact same action, with the only distinction between the two being that the two digit numbers are short actions, and the three digit numbers are long actions. The problem I was warning you about applies to all Savage 110 type rilfes that were originally chambered for WSM cartirdges. If you go have a gunsmith cut threads on your barrel, and he cuts the threads for a "normal" model 12 receiver, then your barrel possibly won't work on your receiver. Here's what the guy at switchbarrel.com says about this in his switch barrel FAQ:




What Savage center fire rifles are suitable for customization?

The Savage Arms Company introduced the Savage 110 rifle in 1957. The original rifles were mechanically very similar to the Savage Rifles produced today except for the breaching system. The original system was similar to that of the Remington 700 with the barrel having a recessed breach that the bolt nose extended into. Savage advertised their rifle as protecting the shooter by surrounding the case head with three “rings of steel” – the barrel recess, bolt nose and the action.

Starting around 1970 Savage changed the 110 barrels so that the barrel ends were flat, with minimal head clearance similar to a Mauser breech. It is these rifles that parts and barrels are readily available and are the most suitable for customization.

In the last few years Savage has introduced several new versions of the 110, most notably short action versions (Model 10) and both long and short action single shot versions. Critical parts are interchangeable with the 110s. However, most recently Savage introduced a modified version featuring a larger barrel thread diameter, improved adjustable trigger and controlled round feed (CRF), for use with the new short magnum cartridges. Customization options for these rifles are more limited.