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Old 07-05-2005, 02:55 AM
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I have had the oppertunity to pick up a contract on Dingo control & things being as they are work wise ! Due to being still rather sore & sorry for myself ! I jumped at the chance to get back into "THE HAIR & SKIN TRADE" (this is a Old slang for a Dogger or more commonly called in the "trade " Dog Stiffener)
It involved going onto a property that I have'nt "worked" in over 20yrs & the last time I was there it consisted of a One Room Stone hut! So I thought ah what the **** I'll take the 45-70 along & just see how the ribs hold up to a bit of recoil!
On my arrival I was shocked to find it 'is now a 5 stasr resort /sheep station& to make matters more interesting .Most of the guests were card carring Tree Huggers & it was suggested by the managment that I keep a low profile !
How I was /am supposed to do this defies imagineation!
I mean to say My Cruiser is set up for Roo Shooting & I reckon that's a dead give away But I promised I would try my hardest to comply with the Manager's wishes!I was laying baits & using the Hornet as much as possible !The problem was I was comming in from work about 4am & not 200 mtrs from the back of the resort was a Dog !(hey I'm there to get rid of Dogs/Dingos ?) So without really thinking I snuck into my room & grabbed the 45-70 & got within about 100mtrs of the dog (making sure that the resort was behind me & let loose ! Well by the time the commotion had settled down around the place I had quietly scalped the Dog & retreated to my room ! I belive the answer given to guests who were awoken was that it was a car Backfiring ! But in conversation to me it was mentioned that although I had got away with it I might have been using too much Gun!!!!!!
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Glad to hear your back in action. Anytime you can put a 45/70 to good use is a great day!!

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Old 07-05-2005, 03:59 AM
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Thanks big foot ! Yeah I know What you mean about putting the 45-70 to god use but I think the next time I use it on thin skinned game I'll refrain from useing 405 gn slugs & probarly refrain from upsetting the unsuspecting public But then again.........
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:30 AM
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I'd say that was a success!!!
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Old 07-05-2005, 03:24 PM
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so how did ya ribs stand up to it ......better than the dingo i recon
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Old 07-05-2005, 04:47 PM
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so how did ya ribs stand up to it ......better than the dingo i recon

The Old Ribs tinngled a bit ! The dingo kind of lost part of his head in the encounter !
. I'm off again tomorrow to get stuck into em again ! Then I'm going to move camp over the weekend & start ,serious work on the swine ! I reckon I've got about 6-12mths work ahead of me! Just to get the Dingo problem under control again ! Once again the Tree huggers have been proven wrong in reguards to ,the problem of Dingos ! They seem to forget that ,the introduction of live stock & other introduced animals has given the dingo ,a increased food supply! The same as Increased Water supplies & the event of cerial crops in what was origanly a barren & deserlet country!
Has increased the Kangeroo populaition to more than before white settlement ! Hey as far as I'm concerned ,it keeps me in a job!
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Old 07-05-2005, 07:31 PM
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Interesting - Guess the wild dog problem in Ozzie land must compare with the coyote problem here.

Didn't know the US government still had government hunters on the payroll until about 10 years back. Was watching over a gas transmission line being laid in the rural area here in Arizona and ran across a gov't hunter charged with controlling the coyote population around a rather large band of sheep.

He used traps, or course, but also had a couple of government provided Remington Mod 700 bolt guns in 25-06 Rem chamberings. They were the heavy sporter models with synthetic stocks and 3x9 tactical scopes. In addition, they had silencers.

Never thought high powered rifles could be effectively silenced, but these emitted no more sound than say a .22 Hornet. Accuracy, surprisingly, was fairly good. He allowed me to take a few shots with one rifle and I was impressed with it's capabilities.

The fella was assigned to travel with the band from the summer range to the winter range, controlling the predators in the areas as they travelled and camped. Thought that practice had been discontinued long ago, but evidently we taxpayers still pay (through taxes on firearms and ammo sales) to support the federal predator contol program.
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Old 07-05-2005, 09:22 PM
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Kudab .We still have Gov cullers here in certain states of Auz ! & I might add they do a mighty Job !
I don't know if there is still a crew working on the Dog fence here in Auz ! This fence streches from the great Australian Bight in South Auz (in fact it hangs over a clifft ) & continues for 1000's of miles through SA /wa border Across the SA /Northern territory border & into NSW where it just ends in a Paddock in the middle of nowhere .
In it's hey day .Men were employed to maintain it & to control Dingos .Each "dogger" Had so many miles to maintain ! The first of these crews had push bikes ! Now considering that they were riding through sand most of the time .Carring , Crowbars ,Shovel ,Fencing tools ,Water ect it is not supprizing they were a little "different"! Latter horses /Camels were used & then 4x4s were introduced ! The fence was built to keep Dingos out of SA & was made of mesh ! I did a stint on the fence once after upsetting my family (it was decided that maybe it would be good for my soul to have a little time out as it were ) It was one of the better jobs I have held in my years as PH
Most of the Dog control these days is by Private contract .With Most large Properties employing their own Doggers ! But most pay a bounty of between $60.00 to $150.00 for a Dingo scalp! I must admit to having stopped on seeing a dog that had been freshly run over in town as I was going off to Work & taking the Scalp & "cashing" it in on one of the above mentioned properties !
Some years ago Feral Pigs were a problem in the eastern states of Auz & NSW put a bounty on the snouts of these pigs! It was a common practice of PH's to get dried apricots & punch two holes through them & mix them in with the pig snouts to increase the numbers! Of course the things really stank by the time they got to the inspectors who had to count them & so would not really take much notice of what they were counting! I have oftern wondered? How many bounties were paid out on dried fruit with holes punched in them ?
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Old 07-06-2005, 09:51 AM
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45-70, eh?
Why am I not surprised?
I'd kill to come out with you for a week, Dave.
Well, to be precise, I'd be hoping to kill pests.
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I'm starting to have a slight red fox problem around here, The little blighters set up outside the house and bark in the middle of the night. I wonder if the nieghbors would notice if I dispatched one at 3 am with the 300 RUM?
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:08 AM
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I wonder if the nieghbors would notice if I dispatched one at 3 am with the 300 RUM?
Maybe......but you could tell 'em it was a car backfiring.
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Old 07-08-2005, 06:55 PM
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Maybe......but you could tell 'em it was a car backfiring.

I work on the simple logic that if I'm awake ! Why should'nt anybody else be!

I see nothing wrong with letting rip at anytime to get rid of a pest (manys the time my wife has wrestled a rifle from me as her mother arrives!)

I'm pleased to report my penince for the other nights little "misshap! Was to give a lecture to the Tree huggers on the ethics of Vermin control/hunting & conservation! The result being that I have learnt The true meaning of hitting your head against a brick wall
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Old 07-08-2005, 08:41 PM
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Of course, Dave you'd know nothing about vermin control having spent your life as a professional roo shooter and feral animal exterminator.
Those folks who live in the city and read Bob Brown's rhetoric on every subject he feels is worthy of his opinion with enthusiasm would have a far better idea of what really goes on outback and the plight of those poor animals you brutalise with your one shot kills.
Does 'em good to hear the truth now and again though.
Tell me, did you show pictures of exterminated beasties?
That really would've p#ssed them off.
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Kombie ! I'm shocked that you could even think that Bob brown would be wrong!!!! I mean to say He does represent the WATER MELON party (green on the out side ! But red on the inside ) I'm waiting for him to get his own SITCOM on tv ! I really love the guy !!!!! He keeps me laughing for hours !

But seriously the talk went down a treat & I feel there where a lot of converts to our way of thinking ! due to a incident some years ago I never take photos at work or allow myself to be photographed at work(I will explain)But what I was able to do was dispell a few facts on the subject of Dingos/dogs ,foxes & feral cats by taking People out & showing them first hand mutilated sheep & lambs killed for the shere **** of it by Dogs! This is always a powerfull arguement! As for Roo culling?
The Juries still out! As these people athough consume,Large amounts of Roo meat at the resort under the label of "Bush Tucker" do'nt want to admit to themselves where it comes from in the first place ! :

The reason you will find that most Older PH do'nt like photos is that many years ago ,over at Broken hill a Rabbit shooter by the name of Dick Mayne shot 333 pair of rabbits in a night ! Now this was not unusall as most good Rabbit shooters were doing this on a regular basis! But the importers of Stirling Ammo at the time were looking for a catchy advert ! Dick was their "boy" they came out got him a Guts full of booze ! Took his photo standing next to a load of rabbits ! Gave him a couple of cartons of beer & got him to sign on the dotted line that they could use the photo !
Well the Advert used to read Dick Mayne Pro Rabbit shooter .With 666 Rabbits all shot through the head with "Clean ecinomical Stirling ammo! Now that was Ok but obviously some one in the taxation office was a shooter & did some research into Dick's tax files & the end result was they went back 7yrs calculating 333pair 6nights a week & charged him for back Taxes ! Which bankrupted him !!!! Needless to say we do'nt like our photos taken ....Just in case !!!!!!
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Kombie ! I'm shocked that you could even think that Bob brown would be wrong!!!! I mean to say He does represent the WATER MELON party (green on the out side ! But red on the inside ) I'm waiting for him to get his own SITCOM on tv ! I really love the guy !!!!! He keeps me laughing for hours !
Didn't you know.......he changed his name to Brown from Newhart.
Funny how people change their minds about feral animal culls when they are faced with the grim realities.
I think I've worked out why foxes & dogs kill as many lambs as they can in one hit.
They can only eat one at once but they can come back to graze on rotten meat for days afterward.
Isn't that a lovely thought.
That tax wrought sucks.
You must take the odd pic of what you shoot though.
Don't you have any pics just of the odd camel or donkey that has fallen to your mighty marksmanship and the wrath of the old No1 MkIII "Smelly" without your handsome mug adorning it?
We figure you're good looking without seeing you in it.
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Didn't you know.......he changed his name to Brown from Newhart.
Funny how people change their minds about feral animal culls when they are faced with the grim realities.
I think I've worked out why foxes & dogs kill as many lambs as they can in one hit.
They can only eat one at once but they can come back to graze on rotten meat for days afterward.
Isn't that a lovely thought.
That tax wrought sucks.
You must take the odd pic of what you shoot though.
Don't you have any pics just of the odd camel or donkey that has fallen to your mighty marksmanship and the wrath of the old No1 MkIII "Smelly" without your handsome mug adorning it?
We figure you're good looking without seeing you in it.
Funny you should ask Kombie as The Wife has been on me to buy her a digital camera for a while ! I must admit as it is a great event when I do manage to hit anything these days
I do really want to show off a couple of my Old working rifles as they've been really good to me over the years! I'm also getting to the stage in life that I want people to see what a shooter has to put up with to make a living ! So stay tuned !
As for my good looking mug ? Mate I'm that ugly the Missus keeps a photo of me handi when she gives the Kids Brocili (if they refuse to eat the Brocili she threaterns to show em the photo!!!!! )
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Your missus sounds like a cruel lady.
But yeah, I'd like to get a squizz at your 303/25 and your other rigs.
BTW, do you use bonded core bullets like Woodleighs for donkeys and camels?
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Your missus sounds like a cruel lady.
But yeah, I'd like to get a squizz at your 303/25 and your other rigs.
BTW, do you use bonded core bullets like Woodleighs for donkeys and camels?

Mate !!!!! You do'nt realize how cruel my Cook is ? She has no regrets of sending a bloke out on cold wet & windy nights!
Further more she used to leave me all on my own at the gun Guy I deal thruogh ,whilst she went shoppinhg .So he could babysit me! But she won't do that after she found i'd brought 2 new (second hand) Ruger single actions (Hey one was for the lad & the other well ........... )
I only use ex mil stuff most of the time as I dream of the Woodleighs but their to ****ed expensive!
I hope to have a digital soon as Big W has just opened in Pt Augusta (she is dying to go on a shopping spree)
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Mate !!!!! You do'nt realize how cruel my Cook is ? She has no regrets of sending a bloke out on cold wet & windy nights!
Heartless!
Totally heartless!

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Further more she used to leave me all on my own at the gun Guy I deal thruogh ,whilst she went shoppinhg .So he could babysit me! But she won't do that after she found i'd brought 2 new (second hand) Ruger single actions (Hey one was for the lad & the other well ...........
See, that was just silly.
If she's going to leave you somewhere where you might be able to purchase guns or said parts it's a dead cert you'll end up buying one or 2 eventually.

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OUCH!!! You use FMJs for camels???
You must be a much better shot than I am.
Or do you grind the tips off?
And yeah, those Woodleighs are pricey.
I'm buying 2 boxes of 50 of their 8mm 250gn RNSN, one for me and another for a Canadian friend.
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Aren't we all......thing is I'd like my credit to be at Horsley Park Gun Shop or Mick Smiths, not Big W.
BTW, does you missus work or does she lounge around at home all day like mine, allegedly doing the housework.
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OUCH!!! You use FMJs for camels???
You must be a much better shot than I am.

(he whispers) Have side cutters will convert!


See, that was just silly.
If she's going to leave you somewhere where you might be able to purchase guns or said parts it's a dead cert you'll end up buying one or 2 eventually.

I explained it could have been worse ! there were several long guns that I would have liked ! But I could'nt work out how to right a 458 off on the Biz....(Yet!)

BTW, does you missus work or does she lounge around at home all day like mine, allegedly doing the housework.

Yes & No She does do all of the Paper work & office type stuff! But she is at home Lounging most of the time
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