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Old 12-11-2012, 06:08 PM
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My name is Shayla and we have an 11 month old Joey (Lucy Sparkles) as our family pet. She went missing 19 days ago. We have tried so many things to recover her. We resisted tracking her with a Hound Dog as all research suggested we not do that. We recently have succumb to that in an effort to just be sure she is alive and that we are in the right place. The dog places her just 3 miles from home. We are surrounded by fields, woods and ponds so she is probably in Heaven but also probably scared as she has never been on her own. I'm wondering if you could give me some pointers on how to hunt a kangaroo (without a rifle of course, lol, we want her alive). Is is like hunting deer here? I know they are nocturnal and move at dusk, night and dawn. Should I hike in early like I would hunting a deer? Is there some company that makes a kangaroo call device? We have deer calls that we blow to bring bucks to us, would that work with her since she hasn't been around other kangaroos for 6 months now? Is there any way to bring her to me since I know the area she is in? Sorry for all the questions, just at my wits end trying to find her and worried about her as well as White Cell Disease.

Thank you so much for your help!

EDIT: Moved to our Australian hunting forum, where you may get some advice.

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Old 12-12-2012, 05:11 AM
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Are you serious?????
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:36 AM
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Are you serious?????
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:44 AM
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Wow, just when you think you've seen it all.

Hope she finds Lucy Sparkles.............I've heard of Sparkling Wiggles, but never Lucy Sparkles.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:12 AM
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I think establishing 3 baiting sites on the property and placing a good digital trail cam at each will let you know where she is; if she is there at all . You probably know her favorite foods.

If she will not come to your call at a specific site she frequents; possible use of a leg hold trap. Check it every morning and twice a day. These do not harm the foot...but as a North American trapper I do not know how she would react?? fight it etc. Animals like coons, and 'otes will circle and dig to try and get free, often biting the chain...but doing no real harm to themselves. Other animals like beaver will just sit and wait for something to happen.

Local Animal Control officers can sometimes help; but often in exotic pets they can hinder the safe fast recovery.

Good luck mate.
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:06 PM
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I think establishing 3 baiting sites on the property and placing a good digital trail cam at each will let you know where she is; if she is there at all . You probably know her favorite foods.

If she will not come to your call at a specific site she frequents; possible use of a leg hold trap. Check it every morning and twice a day. These do not harm the foot...but as a North American trapper I do not know how she would react?? fight it etc. Animals like coons, and 'otes will circle and dig to try and get free, often biting the chain...but doing no real harm to themselves. Other animals like beaver will just sit and wait for something to happen.

Local Animal Control officers can sometimes help; but often in exotic pets they can hinder the safe fast recovery.

Good luck mate.
Thank you Harry. We have some bait stations and cams out but have pouches out instead of traps. May need to switch to traps. Thanks!
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Old 12-12-2012, 04:07 PM
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Wow, just when you think you've seen it all.

Hope she finds Lucy Sparkles.............I've heard of Sparkling Wiggles, but never Lucy Sparkles.
Yes, serious. Her story was covered on CNN. Crazy,
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It used to be a law in some states that if you saw an animal that was not indigenous to the area, you were obligated to destroy it so it could not spread disease.

I know some people become very attached to animals but it's very unfortunate when great intentions are not matched by responsible animals stewardship.

I hope you get you critter back and that you do a better job of keeping it contained.
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Old 12-12-2012, 05:14 PM
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Put some "dirty" clothes of family members out in various spots with some of her food and water, she may bed down if the smell is familiar. Check often.
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:37 PM
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Put some "dirty" clothes of family members out in various spots with some of her food and water, she may bed down if the smell is familiar. Check often.
Thank you for the idea, will do. And thank you for not reprimanding me.
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Old 12-12-2012, 08:48 PM
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Try a spot light and dart gun from a veterinarian??? Spot light the open fields at night. Good Luck!
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Tough one

I was a wildlife officer for 8 years with this states Dept Conservation & Land Management and also as a kid had a pet kangaroo so can sympathise.

1. Avoid any form of leg hold trap (They will break the hind leg if caught and once that happens euthanasia is the ONLY option).
2. You don't say how old this joey is - if it is used to being in a pouch / bag as all of them are then yes hanging some of its usual pouch bags at suitable height in the area she disappeared might work.
3. There is a way to call them, their mother uses it!.

How to explain the call bye text so you can reproduce it authentically? Ok The word "Hurt" - the sound is produced just as the word sounds BUT with the T at the end missing - i.e "Hur" (bigger than ben hur). When you pronounce the word "Hur" do it with a lot more breath in the middle that if you were just speaking the word...and lengthen the U vowell sound, i.e "Huuur". Add enough breath to make the "uuuu" vowel sound "raspy" - the same way that a deer roar sound might have a guttural roll of the tonsils in the middle...

This sound is the "danger sound" that mothers use to summon a joey back to the pouch.

4. The neck of the Joey is it's most vulnerable / breakage prone area - usually when they hit a fence while hopping at speed. Failing that, if they jump normal cattle and sheep fences, which they are quite capable of doing - and happen to get those long rear legs between the top and second top strand they will go over and twist the two wires so as to entrap one or both back legs and basically die from breaking their neck on the ground on the far side or just from hanging upside down for any length of time.

If it's young, most Joeys not under pressure from a predator - will choose to push under fences - rather than hop over and you'll see the areas where they push under fences repeatedly.

5. You don't say if this Joey was still on the bottle - if so - then obviously warm bottled mix (not raw cows milk) will work to attract them. Back in my day we used powdered cows milk at about 4 or 6 times the normal strength with pentavite and glucose, and a raw egg yolk, they like a far richer milk mix than normal cows milk, which will scour and kill them. We've used the same mix to raise fawns with success.

6. If the Joey is eating grass already, and they do from an reasonably early age, he she will still use a pouch up to 12 months of age even if hand raised. Like deer they are very able to tell the protein content of any free feed offered, so the higher protein grains (Wheat 13%, Barley 10-11%) are more attractive than say oats (6%), as a free feed/attractant. Here we would also add in some Lupin (Legume pea) which is far higher crude protein at ~26%. Lucern hay would also be sweet and attractive.

7. A Joey here only has only a few potential predators (Dingo & Fox) when in the wild. However in your nation, the are far more more predators capable of making a meal of a small joey against which he would likely have little if any instinctive defenses. (Mountain Lions, Wolves, Coyotes, Bears etc).

You will have to be prepared for the fact that he might already have succumbed. Its pretty unlikely they would establish and become a problem in your nation IMHO.

Seeking the lil fellow at night with a spotlight is probably best they are nocturnal animals, and their eyes are a dead giveaway, they shine back pretty bright.

Good luck with it. Wish i could do more to assist, if I think of anything - I'll post again!
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:00 AM
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Ok

OK read the link.

Oklahoma - OK I know zip about USA - but I imagine this is wheat sheep country in Oklahoma and that your coming into winter (snow) so cold?

Roo's here will manage below zero temps overnight in the desert and above 100f in the daytime. They can go without water for weeks - gathering enough moisture from grass they eat etc.

I doubt however that she could survive a snowed in winter - that they are NOT adapted to do!.

The pic tends to suggest that she is a small red kangaroo - but more likely by the size actually a "Euro" which is a small desert version of the red Kangaroo not unlike a wallaby in size and stature (i.e. a little smaller than the atypical red or grey kangaroo).

There's a chance that she has come into season and gone looking for a mate!.

Maybe a buck roo scent would have some affect at attracting her?

Don't know where you'd find any of that in the USA unless you can track down someone with a male of the same species! A roo culler here could get you any amount but not sure you could import it...for disease risk reasons.

Roos actually don't make bad pets when hand raised - specially females! Like deer the males can be a bit troublesome when they mature and get boisterous.

Again good luck with it.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:56 AM
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Where bouts here in OKlahoma? Seems I saw something about a lady with a kangaroo there in Tulsa that was being evicted because of her pet Kangaroo last summer. We are in Creek County and have seen about every sort of pet you could imagine roaming around thru these hills and canyons, I think this is a target area for every one in Tulsa and OKC to abandon their unwanted pets from Buffaloes to exotic birds. Anyhow, hope you recover your lost kangaroo soon.
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Old 01-08-2013, 06:25 AM
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Thanks for posting the information Anne. Lots of things I learned from your post.

I check the news nets and no info on anyone finding the roo. Since neither Sparkles nor Shayla has checked in.. I assume this is an unhappy closed issue.
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Old 05-06-2013, 11:26 PM
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OK read the link.

Oklahoma - OK I know zip about USA - but I imagine this is wheat sheep country in Oklahoma and that your coming into winter (snow) so cold?

Roo's here will manage below zero temps overnight in the desert and above 100f in the daytime. They can go without water for weeks - gathering enough moisture from grass they eat etc.

I doubt however that she could survive a snowed in winter - that they are NOT adapted to do!.

The pic tends to suggest that she is a small red kangaroo - but more likely by the size actually a "Euro" which is a small desert version of the red Kangaroo not unlike a wallaby in size and stature (i.e. a little smaller than the atypical red or grey kangaroo).

There's a chance that she has come into season and gone looking for a mate!.

Maybe a buck roo scent would have some affect at attracting her?

Don't know where you'd find any of that in the USA unless you can track down someone with a male of the same species! A roo culler here could get you any amount but not sure you could import it...for disease risk reasons.

Roos actually don't make bad pets when hand raised - specially females! Like deer the males can be a bit troublesome when they mature and get boisterous.

Again good luck with it.
G'day there,
Having hunted 'roos here in OZ for over 50 years, I suggest that you take the advice of Anne Shoots.
Don't use a leg rope trap or any other trap for that matter.
You need to locate Lucy Sparkles firstly; monitor her until dark and be close enough to tranquillize her.
A couple things to be mindful of
They incredible sense of smell - approach from downwind
"Hunt" her on a moonless night and on a night with no wind if possible. She'll be very skittish in moonlight or windy conditions. Those conditions expose her to her predators.
Hope this helps.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:16 AM
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Hi everyone. Thank you all for the ideas along the way. Her story was broadcast all over our local news and radio stations and attracted a lot of searchers. We believe she was either killed or stolen and sold. We have had many "sighting" leads & even a few "stolen/sold" leads but everything has turned up empty.

She was a true Red Kangaroo but was only 6 months old, thus making her small at the time of her disappearance. Thank you again for your interest in helping.
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Thanks for the update Shayla. From time to time thought of y'all and wondered how that deal come out. Very sorry Lucy Sparkles wasn't recovered.
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Sorry to hear

Sorry to hear that Luck Sparkles wasn't recovered.

I was thinking that of she could be located she could be free fed - until she was regularly taking the food then lace it with grain soaked in pure alcohol.

When she eats it and lays down to go to sleep due to the effects of intoxication it would likely have been possible to approach her readily for capture by hand.

It's a shame you weren't able to locate her.

Red Kangaroos are instinctively well adapted to surviving attacks from dingo's here (so wolves in your area) however she might be far less capable when it comes to say an attack out of a tree by a puma for example - that she would NOT be instinctively adapted too.

You would think if she showed up somewhere - word would quickly get out.
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Think of a kangaroo as similar to a whitetail deer in terms of the locations you will find them.

Common misconception is to look in open country but they tend to prefer heavy brush and the best time to look is at night with a spotlight. At night they will venture out more into open areas to munch on grass but they will always try to remain near cover. During the day they will generally be found in the brush. Expect them to start venturing out into the open about 30 minutes or so before dark unless it is rainy in which case they may come out any time of day. They will return into the brush if they think there is a threat and in the mornings they will tend to be out while it is still cool.

Also you'll probably have to use a tranquilizer gun. Do not try to catch it by hand. Remember the size of the rear claws. They are capable of using their rear feet and associated claws quite effectively.
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