It was released to publishing early and I got mine in today. I didn't see a ton of changes other than additions/moves of some cartridges that have gained enough popularity here in the USA to be mentioned in the USA chapter (example: 9.3x62, used to only be in the European section), for some who had new ammo released (example: LeveRevolution for .35 Remington and mentioned trimming the .35 Remington case by 0.12 inches to meet the 1.8 inch case requirement for Indiana hunting), and for cartridges with specs approved since the 12th ed (example: 6.5 Grendel, which was in the wildcat section in 12th ed but now moved to the standardized section). Another thing new from the 12th ed is an addition of a small (a few glossy, color pages) section specifically talking about ARs and chamberings due to their rise in popularity.

Guess I'll just hang onto my 12th Edition a while longer, then.

Thanks for the mini-review, Shane.

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Thanks for giving us a heads-up, Shane.

I might pick one up, just for the Indiana-specific mention of shortened 35 Remington cases. What a bunch of silliness that is, huh?

Still, if Indiana finally wises up and does away with the ridiculous regulations entirely, it would be cool to have a fairly limited edition of COTW, with mention of the modified 35 Remington rounds.

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I have every one, there is always something interesting in them.
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The AR’s and the commie “self-commencers” have about taken over the gun stores. I was just in Oklahoma City and the H&H gun range has an AR in just about every color. I’ll give H&H credit, they had a Spencer, several Henry “assault rifles” and a good selection of 1873 clones. Friendly folks but the emphasis is on “tacticool.”

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Iorg +1.


I'll get the 13th, as my 9th edition is getting dated and page worn!

No problem... I haven't gone through it all yet, just skimmed through it. There may be other changes but I saw a few that actually had a "13th Edition changes" section in their descriptions. I like reading the entries, personally. It's one of my.... 10 minute daily readers... if you catch my drift.

I guess it's time to get an up-dated version, as my 6th edition is getting a little dated.


Lee

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Yeah, Lee -

And, you're pretty dated yourself!!!!!

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I scanned it a little more... I noticed that all the higher power .22cal centerfires had a 13th edition note saying that with modern bullets (Partitions, etc.) that they were viable whitetail deer cartridges. The WSMs had a note in them about the lawsuit. And the various cartridges that had LeveRevolutions had a note about those (.30-30, .35 Remington, etc.) There were a few new cartridges added to the current standardized chapter... 6.5 Grendel, 9.3x62, and two or three others that I noticed. Overall, the formatting looked a little cleaner than the 12th Edition that I have, too... can't put my finger on it yet, but maybe it's a slight font change or something but it looks more consistent. I haven't gotten past that chapter yet, though... still plenty of book left.

Hmm! From the pot to the kettle.

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More info: There are a few wildcats added to that chapter... several from the Indiana regulations.

Got a call from Barns & Noble yesterday that my copy is in, so I will be picking it up tomorrow. Just wish there was a place to down load it to the computer. I guess I will just have to scan it there. Not much space in a 40' Motor home for book storage.


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Something new in this edition... there is a CD delivered with the book. I have no idea what's on it... I haven't taken it out to see, yet. But yeah... it'd be very nice if there were an eBook form of the book.

Well I finaly bought it. One of the first things I noticed is that some interesting old cartridges are missing. Looking at the CD many are included on the CD which is scanned and put into a PDF format.
I wish they had gone back and picked up a few of the old wildcats that were in earlier editions but I am not complaining.
Lots of new cartridges for the AR’s and other self commencers included. I need to know about them even if I probably will never load for them. I will add the to my want list for the collection.

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$23 Amazon.com: Cartridges of the World: A Complete Illustrated Reference for More Than 1,500 Cartridges (9781440230592): Frank C. Barnes, Richard A. Mann: Books

I dont want to advertise for anyone but if you watch GunDigest books you might a few dollars....

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What is the WSM lawsuit all about? I'm curious because I own and enjoy one of the 7mm variety.

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Dont know how you missed all of this.

There are several LONG threads on the 24Hour Campfire about this.

The Death of Short Magnums?

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Heck, I live in MO and never heard of any of it. What's the bottom line Bill? I mean the article you posted really doesn't say. Plenty of folks in these parts still are buying .270 and .300 WSMs. Was it just the name that got Winchester in legal hot water. Had someone else (this Jamison) already copyrighted the name? Or were they his wildcats under a different name?

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that Chuck hawks article is 6+ years old.

the suit settled and patent Jameson get $$. You pay it when you buy a WSM or on every box of ammo.

I've not seen him writing any longer could be millionaires in Bermuda don't type or mag publishers don't like their readers and advertisers held up!
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