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Old 09-21-2005, 10:29 AM
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Gentlemen,

Not sure if this belongs in the bullet casting forum or the muzzleloader forum, but here goes.

I'm making my own 50cal R.E.A.L. bullets from a Lee mold for my muzzleloader. I use T/C bore butter for a patch lube with the RBs and wanted to use it with these conicals. So I melted some bore butter, stood several bullets up in a dish and "pan lubed" them.Then allowed it to harden. Only to find out that the bore butter doesn't stick for poo. Now I'm thoroughly irritated.

Is there a way to thicken/harden the T/C bore butter to make it work? Is there a better (hopefully homemade) lube I can use?

I also have some pre lubed wonder wads, can I use them with an unlubed bullet? (I'm desperate here LOL).

Open to all input here.

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Old 09-21-2005, 05:41 PM
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Take melted beeswax (much preferred) or parafin and stir in the Bore Butter at about 60/40 BB then dip your REALs and let dry. Your Wonder Wads (which are now out of business) need a good smear of BB melted into them also. This keeps the fouling from caking hard. I've used the WWs under the REALs for years and they are my most accurate combination.
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Old 09-21-2005, 07:18 PM
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Interestingly, I've had great success by simply lubing the R.E.A.L. Lee bullets in Lee Liquid Alox, and letting it cure thoroughly, then filling the lube grooves with pure (cheap) lard, available at your local grocery store!

In my various rifles, this combination allows me to shoot round after round after round with no cleaning whatsoever between shots when using Goex FFFg powder. Too, loading the twentieth round is no harder than the second bullet was to push down the bore! Accuracy is stellar.

Lube with the Liquid Alox well ahead of shooting day and allow to cure at least 24 hours, and lube with pure lard immediately before shooting, or before placing in speed-loaders.

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Old 09-22-2005, 10:53 AM
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Gentlemen,

Thanks for the replies!

The wonder wads I have are actually sold by Remington and are pre lubed, looks like with bore butter to me. Can I use them without lubing the bullets?

Marshal,

What would you think about using the R.E.A.L. bullets, lubed with liquid alox and seated atop a lubed wonder wad? I may try that this weekend.

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Old 09-22-2005, 12:13 PM
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Guess i'm even cheaper than most. IF I'm not rushed in relaoding, will just ram a small was of waxed paper (about a 2" square kind of balled up and tamped down) and lube the REAL bullet with either lard or Chrisco. Nothing facny, just golb on the lard with my fingers and ram it on home...waxed paper being a little help in keeping any melted lube from reaching the powder charge.
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Old 09-22-2005, 06:11 PM
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I have next to zero experience here with R.E.A.L. bullets as I am a new caster.
I was cleaning out the garage recently and found two old containers of soft catfish bait. I near threw them out but kept them because they still smelled fine.
Now that I have read your posts, I am thinking of the possibilities as a bullet lube?
Think about it!
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Old 09-23-2005, 09:36 AM
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I would imagine that it takes a very refined nose to determine whether catfish bait has gone sour. All I can say Cheez, is to be very careful when trying to mix your various recreations. There could be the chance for potential problems there.
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheezywan
I have next to zero experience here with R.E.A.L. bullets as I am a new caster.
I was cleaning out the garage recently and found two old containers of soft catfish bait. I near threw them out but kept them because they still smelled fine.
Now that I have read your posts, I am thinking of the possibilities as a bullet lube?
Think about it!
Cheezywan
You might check out this site:

http://mamaflinter.tripod.com/id10.html

She has a recipe for Moose Milk. I mix in bees wax to thicken it to a soft paste and use it as a bullet lube instead of Bore Butter.

There are pro's and con's to Bore butter. I've found the recipe to work quite well. I dab some under my conical including the REAL bullets.

I also use Lee's Alox lube to size my conicals to my bore diameter. Call me anal. I don't do it with the REAL bullets as it would defeat the purpose of those ribs cleaning the barrel going in and out.

I've read some posts on other forums suggesting using wads (wonder wads, veg fiber wads) under the projectile. Some claim an improved accuracy. I haven't tried it yet.
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Old 09-23-2005, 05:38 PM
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I would imagine that it takes a very refined nose to determine whether catfish bait has gone sour. All I can say Cheez, is to be very careful when trying to mix your various recreations. There could be the chance for potential problems there.
I guess it is an accuirred taste like beer or coffee.
I do know that it has a cooking oil base.
I like the smell of Hoppe's #9.
I like the smell of blackpowder.
If you spend enough time in a flat bottom boat, you will love the smell of catfish bait.
Blackpowder has the smell of rotton eggs. Catfish bait smells worce.
If you like to shoot alone, use catfish bait for lube.
Cheezywan
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Old 09-25-2005, 06:32 AM
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here is a link to some lubes. Hope to have helped
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http://www.bpcr.net/BPCR_lubes.htm
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