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Old 02-13-2011, 05:43 PM
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.400 Whelan


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Anyone have a .400 Whelan cart w/round nose bullet they could part with?? Need one for my wildcat collection.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:38 PM
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the 411 hawk is identical to the 400 whelena expet it doesnt have the same headspace issues its bottom one

http://www.ammo-one.com/HawkCartridges.html
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Old 02-24-2011, 10:19 AM
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Well, the 400 Whelen is misunderstood, especially with regards to headspace issues.

The original Whelen was done with a .458-.460 shoulder dimension and not the .441 of the standard '06. A few folks tried to duplicate it as a .400-06 and had headspace issues with the small shoulder.

Small headspace area are not an issue depending on what you headspace on. There are numerous guns that headspace on a few thousandths of an inch and fire thousands of rounds without a hitch. In fact, they will do that in a minute. One that comes to mind immediately was a 1927 version of the Thompson. Here is a "big bore' that fires a half ounce projectile and hundreds of rounds per minute headspacing only on the few thousandts of case mouth.

The 411 Hawk is a slightly shorter case and duplicates the 400. Eliminating the need for a bit over length 06 to form correctly as they get short. Basic 06 brass is hard to come by to get the correct neck length.

I would suggest that anyone look up Michael Petrov's article on the 400 (with permission from moderators) at Fred Zeglin's site z-hat.com)
I think this will identify where the headspace problems came from and define the cartridge as it should be. A great old round.

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Old 03-04-2011, 03:09 PM
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http://www.z-hat.com/Hawk%20Forming.htm

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Old 03-04-2011, 03:20 PM
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http://www.z-hat.com/smashing_the_headspace_myth.htm

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Old 11-25-2012, 01:39 PM
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I have Two 400 Whalen's in My collection. Both are Head stamped FA46. If you PM me I can give you a cost + UPS shipping
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:06 PM
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Cheap!!

I see those Hawk dummies can be had for around eight bucks. I was looking at Lazzeroni dummies the other night: Ten bucks each. Must be the advertising...
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:25 PM
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Salpal,I'll take one, PM me details.
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Old 12-31-2012, 01:28 PM
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I'm only interested for the collector end of it, I have a good sized wildcat collection and lack this one.
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:39 PM
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400 whalen

I'v PM'd you with information
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Old 05-19-2013, 08:32 PM
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When pigs fly...

I'll have a mildcat with what amounts to .35 Whelen "Magnum" dimensions one of these days. That is, if Dave Manson ever gets the reamer made. I ordered it seven months ago. Seems he has no interest in making it. Got an email from him almost a month ago; promised it out the door by May 6. Ain't seen it yet. Sending out feelers to PT&G, tomorrow. My gunsmith says they can make one in three to six weeks. Beats the himmel out of seven months-- and counting. I might be amenable to doling out a few fired cases once the rifle blasts its first rounds. broom_jm gets the second one ever fired. I'm gonna be a pig and keep the first one for myself...
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Old 05-21-2013, 08:25 AM
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I'd like one round for sure, let me know when you get them made up.
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