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Old 05-06-2007, 05:19 PM
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Ok, I really am a cowboy at heart. I love revolvers and have several. I now find I have a "want" for another. I have a Uberti 1873 in 45LC but it's so so accuracy has me a bit wary to buy another. I have read the 1875's were more accurate but a bit more awkward to load and hold. Perhaps Ol' Frank James might dissagree. My question is this should I give up the past and buy a Vaquero or did I just get a bad Uberti? Is the 1875 better or worse? Does anybody make one in .44Spl?
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:00 PM
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I've got a friend whom has a Uberti and it's a pretty revolver. From a gunsmiths point of view the Ruger's are simply the toughest single action revolver on the market.
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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If you look around you might find an old Ruger Vaquero model in .44. mag and you will be able to shot .44. specials out of them.
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Old 05-06-2007, 10:27 PM
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You may have a Uberti 1873 with so-so accuracy however the fixed sights with the little V notch above the hammer is not much help when trying to align the sights. Shooting a single action clone is definitely a challenge as there is no guarantee that the gun will shoot to point of aim. All four of mine tend to shoot low and to the left meaning that I have to take "Kentucky windage" in order to place shots in the "black". The so-so accuracy of yours may not be your fault. You could buy a Vaquero and get a gun that will shoot more to point of aim or you could work with your Uberti a little more to see where it shoots. There is no guarantee that the 1875 Remington clone will shoot any better than the 1873. You can obtain a .44 Special 1873 clone from Cimarron and probably from Uberti, American Western Arms, and Navy Arms too but some of these are also made by Uberti.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:09 PM
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Ok, I really am a cowboy at heart. I love revolvers and have several. I now find I have a "want" for another. I have a Uberti 1873 in 45LC but it's so so accuracy has me a bit wary to buy another. I have read the 1875's were more accurate but a bit more awkward to load and hold. Perhaps Ol' Frank James might dissagree. My question is this should I give up the past and buy a Vaquero or did I just get a bad Uberti? Is the 1875 better or worse? Does anybody make one in .44Spl?
Thanks in advance!!!
First of all, Uberti has improved it's quality by leaps and bounds in the past decade and depending on the age of your current one, it may be just time to treat it to a disassembly and cleaning, polishing and or some new
parts. I doubt very much if you got a "bad" Uberti, just one that could be improved. These clones we shoot with such frequency must have theirinternals changed up from the original Colt design or they just wouldn't hold up at all. I've had a pair of the 75's and liked them very much, however one was just never quite like the other despite the consequitive numbers, and some folks find that they just neer get used to the feel of them over the Colt design. The new Rugers are nice, but so are many of the other brands we've now got to choose from, you should look at several in all calibers. Unfortunately the .44 special has kinda fallen by the wayside, but plenty of used ones around, but now calibers like the 38-40, 32-20, are back in the offerings. If you want to go back to .44, get an old model Vaquaro. They're built like tanks, can take full power .44 mag loads and with aftermarket parts you can tune them to fit your taste. Or, send old faithful off to be restored to better than new! Doug Turnbull style- you won't ever want to shoot it it'll look so good!
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:00 AM
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. . . Unfortunately the .44 special has kinda fallen by the wayside, but plenty of used ones around . . .

Or, send old faithful off to be restored to better than new! Doug Turnbull style- you won't ever want to shoot it it'll look so good!
Blasphemy! The .44 S&W Special with its' straight walls is ideal as a reduced version of the .45 Colt, can have less recoil, resizes easily with carbide dies and best of all, is very accurate. With midrange loads, it can be shot all day without fatigue unlike some of its' close cousins. Ideal as a "cowboy" caliber! Single action Colt clones chambered for this cartridge have thicker cyinder walls than with the .45 Colt allowing for some judicious "souping up". Factory loadings of this old warhorse are woefully underpowered but handloaders can really put some horsepower under the hood. This was a favorite cartridge with Elmer Keith and "Skeeter" Skeleton until the .44 S&W Magnum came along.

Restoring anything "Doug Turnbull style" can put a serious dent in your monthly budget so it's best done with something that is valuable to start with. IMHO, don't believe an Italian clone would quite fill the bill. No offense intended to Italians, just that they make most of the clones on the market.
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Old 05-08-2007, 01:47 PM
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Colts are pricey but it's what I would buy if I wanted a "cowboy" gun and could put the coins together. You could dang sure get one cheaper than a Turnbull worked Uberti.
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Ok, I really am a cowboy at heart. I love revolvers and have several. I now find I have a "want" for another. I have a Uberti 1873 in 45LC but it's so so accuracy has me a bit wary to buy another. I have read the 1875's were more accurate but a bit more awkward to load and hold. Perhaps Ol' Frank James might dissagree. My question is this should I give up the past and buy a Vaquero or did I just get a bad Uberti? Is the 1875 better or worse? Does anybody make one in .44Spl?
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USFA chambers their single action army in .44 special.

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Old 05-09-2007, 02:22 PM
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I have a Cimarron Peacemaker clone in .44 special and it's a great gun! Shoots low and to the left, but from 10 yards I'd say groups are under 2 inches, maybe closer to 1" with a good load. To me that's pretty decent accuracy.

I chose .44 spl because I had read a few articles by Keith around the time I bought it (about 5 years ago), and I also thought it would make a nice companion gun to my .44 Mag Winchester 94. Despite the influence, I don't use any hot Keith loads in it, but I do sometimes take it deer hunting with me when I'm packing the Winchester.

Mostly I use it for Cowboy Action Shooting. I'm on my 3rd season and haven't had any problems, other than it started binding once because it was really dirty. That was simply a case of neglect on my part , and no fault of the gun.
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USFA chambers their single action army in .44 special.

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Good guns, good choice if you're not gonna rebuild your Cimarron.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:21 PM
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Good guns, good choice if you're not gonna rebuild your Cimarron.
the usfa guns have been reported to be one hole accurate, any gun you have rebuilt is going to likely give good service if the smith is reputable..one choice could be the already re worked usfaa colt clone called the Rodeo, it comes to you from Jim Finch (longHunter) a notable action shooter and gunsmith who accurizes and tightens up clones and originals. ..Just look at LongHunterarms.com for the reworked colt clones from the blue dome plant in Hartford connecticut ( the original colt plant ) it handles well is possibly more reliable than other colt clones due to the oversize base pin and the closer tolerances and the coil spring instead of a hand or leaf spring in the frame... the trigger pull is nice too..
I have conversed with several shooters who say it is the most accurate cowboy gun they have used yet..
Hope this helps, I was asking a lot of the same questions all over the web..
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Thanks to all of you for the info as well as opinions. I've lid down the cash for an 1875 and plant to work a little more with loads for both it and my '73. I don't give up easy.
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:37 PM
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Thanks to all of you for the info as well as opinions. I've lid down the cash for an 1875 and plant to work a little more with loads for both it and my '73. I don't give up easy.
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Old 06-26-2007, 12:12 PM
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You might check the inside chamber dimensions....some are too tight and need reaming. Also, have you played with different alloy bullets and loads?
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Old 07-06-2007, 09:39 PM
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There's a company here in the US that makes the Remington 1875 and 1890 from scratch totally in the US. They are reported to be some of the finest examples of those guns ever made and are made of the best materials and can be used to shoot the hottest loads like the Rugers. Forgot the name of the company though. Could it be Hartford Armory with Taylors as the exclusive distributor? Yes I think that's it. Go to Taylors web site for the pics ect. ect ect. Those Rems are the best made I'd say. I've read good things about them. They cost. Quality usually does.

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There's a company here in the US that makes the Remington 1875 and 1890 from scratch totally in the US. They are reported to be some of the finest examples of those guns ever made and are made of the best materials and can be used to shoot the hottest loads like the Rugers. Forgot the name of the company though. Could it be Hartford Armory with Taylors as the exclusive distributor? Yes I think that's it. Go to Taylors web site for the pics ect. ect ect. Those Rems are the best made I'd say. I've read good things about them. They cost. Quality usually does.

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I've owned Colt's, EAA's, Hartford, and Ive shot the Beretta and I spend my money on the Ruger NM Vaquero! It's a little bigger than the Colt, and I like that cause I have big hands. Rugers are built to handle heavy loads. The Vaquero is the gun Colt should have been!
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:23 AM
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I like the rugers for the money they cant be beat 2 45 L/C vaq 1 45 l/C black hawk 1 44 mag 7 inch S/B 1 30 carbine B/H 1 357 / 38 B/H and 1 41 mag B/H love them .
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Are you sure you are referring to the new model Vaqueros? These have been built on the XR3 frame since 2005 and are substantially smaller than the the previous models. In fact, they are not made in .44 due to the possibility of a hot loaded .44 special wrecking the gun.

If you are shooting in the modern catagory which allows adjustable sights such as those on the Blackhawks, then they will indeed handle heavy loads in all calibers, but the fixed sight new model Vaqueros are not made to shoot anything but low velocity cowboy loads.

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I've owned Colt's, EAA's, Hartford, and Ive shot the Beretta and I spend my money on the Ruger NM Vaquero! It's a little bigger than the Colt, and I like that cause I have big hands. Rugers are built to handle heavy loads. The Vaquero is the gun Colt should have been!
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PS- I just shot a 6 stage match today with everything loaded with either Goex or Triple 7. My two Gauchos never had any fouling problems and I could have keep on going without cleaning then for another 6 stages.
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