.45 Colt clone and hard cast bullets - Page 2

Pigslayer · #21 03-18-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick Weed

It amazes me that over the years people still have bear questions and I wonder how many have actually seen one outside of the zoo or circus. Avoid them.

Have seen a number of Black Bears milling around in PA where I grew up. I don't care for the meat so I don't hunt them. They're not the friendliest when on the strap. I steer clear of them. A black bear is smaller than the brown but he or she will kill you . . . & eat you.

Doc Haley · #22 07-01-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by .45 Dave

OK here's a question for you. I've got a .45 Uberti Regulator which is the same as the Cattleman. 7 1/2" barrel. I have heard that if you go into bear country (Grizzly) it is better to have hard cast bullets. Now I'm not anxious to go toe to toe with a grizzly with a .45 but just in case, has anyone tried using hard cast bullets in one of these? Do you recommend them in the first place for bear? I have a friend who can load them for me (given the limitations of the stress this gun will take) but what do you all think?

I live in Northern NM, 9000 plus feet for most of the year. I have big cats, black bears and greys on my small 1/3 acre plus place.
I used to carry a 45 then a forest ranger talked to me and told me that I was making a big mistake, one that could cost me my life. 8 out of 10 shots with a 45 won't hurt a black bear unless you hit it in the heart, which is nearly impossible, or in the eye socket or in the ear canal.
He told me that he and his other rangers carry a sawed off shotgun with #6 shot and have it loaded with 5 rounds (it's legal unless you are hunting).
He said simply shoot at the bears face. It's more likely than not that several of the shots will hit the bear in his/her eyes-nose-mouth and will stun them instantly, possibly even blinding them for a few seconds. Now you have a chance to pop off another round in the face. Reload and wait. It'll either run away which is the most likely scenario or it'll be pissed and look at you, giving you another chance to pop off your next of 5 rounds.
Be smart, no one is so good with a pistol that a shot or two is going to drop a black bear first time around, most people are scared ****less. The shotgun is your best choice.
I have a 16 ga pump with 5 rounds in it and 4 more on the butt waiting to be reloaded.
I've used it a half a dozen times on all of the above critters. I had to call the rangers when I shot at the grey, cause it's protected unless it is going to attack you and when you see a 150 pound or bigger grey wolf with a chest bigger than any rottweiler you have ever seen and it's back is 3 feet tall, as tall as your kitchen counter top, everyone gets shaky, it's human nature. Just never run, it's over if you do. Stand your ground fire and reload after every two shots if you can and be looking around. These animals don't always run solo.
Doc
I forgot, the second line of advice I was given was to carry a compressed nitrogen boat horn, you know those loud as heck hand held boat horns you can get at any sporting goods store? I have since carried one of them and never, and I mean never, have I blasted it for 3 or 4 seconds and not had the bear, cat or grey run like ****! Just a second bit of advice for you your wife and your kids.
Doc

temmi · #23 07-02-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Haley

I live in Northern NM, 9000 plus feet for most of the year. I have big cats, black bears and greys on my small 1/3 acre plus place.
I used to carry a 45 then a forest ranger talked to me and told me that I was making a big mistake, one that could cost me my life. 8 out of 10 shots with a 45 won't hurt a black bear unless you hit it in the heart, which is nearly impossible, or in the eye socket or in the ear canal.
He told me that he and his other rangers carry a sawed off shotgun with #6 shot and have it loaded with 5 rounds (it's legal unless you are hunting).
He said simply shoot at the bears face. It's more likely than not that several of the shots will hit the bear in his/her eyes-nose-mouth and will stun them instantly, possibly even blinding them for a few seconds. Now you have a chance to pop off another round in the face. Reload and wait. It'll either run away which is the most likely scenario or it'll be pissed and look at you, giving you another chance to pop off your next of 5 rounds.
Be smart, no one is so good with a pistol that a shot or two is going to drop a black bear first time around, most people are scared ****less. The shotgun is your best choice.
I have a 16 ga pump with 5 rounds in it and 4 more on the butt waiting to be reloaded.
I've used it a half a dozen times on all of the above critters. I had to call the rangers when I shot at the grey, cause it's protected unless it is going to attack you and when you see a 150 pound or bigger grey wolf with a chest bigger than any rottweiler you have ever seen and it's back is 3 feet tall, as tall as your kitchen counter top, everyone gets shaky, it's human nature. Just never run, it's over if you do. Stand your ground fire and reload after every two shots if you can and be looking around. These animals don't always run solo.
Doc
I forgot, the second line of advice I was given was to carry a compressed nitrogen boat horn, you know those loud as heck hand held boat horns you can get at any sporting goods store? I have since carried one of them and never, and I mean never, have I blasted it for 3 or 4 seconds and not had the bear, cat or grey run like ****! Just a second bit of advice for you your wife and your kids.
Doc

I can see your point.

A rifle is best but a 480R would be good.

But

I'm not sure about 6 shot...

Still no bears in Texas so I will leave it to you.

Snake