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Old 09-29-2012, 10:50 AM
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been looking into the vaquero in 45lc.. would like to see some reviews on this platform before i buy?
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:27 PM
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I have a Ruger Vaquero stainless 4 5/8 barrel but in 44 special. It is one of my favorite tote around guns. I have put over 1000 rounds through mine without a hitch.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:34 PM
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I have the Vaquero in 45 colt. No functional problems with it at all. Very handy size for farm and woods carry for me. Mine has one small, 4 mm area on the case colored frame that is prone to a "red rash". I have to be careful to keep it oiled at that spot to prevent rust. I don't know it something was missed in the finish during manufacturing or whether I might have gotten some chemical on the case color that caused it. That little area does not have the deep colored appearance that the rest of the frame shows. Even at that I would not hesitate to get another one.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:02 PM
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This is the best review I have ever seen even though it is a few years old.
From Rifle Magazine web site an archive of a Handloader magazine article by Brian Pearce April 2005
http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazin...34_preview.pdf
Scroll down to page 7 of the PDF
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Old 11-10-2012, 07:08 PM
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First thing you you need to know Louie, is that there are a few different versions of Vaquero.

Up until 2005, the Vaquero was on the same frame size as the Blackhawk so you could load Ruger Only level .45 Colt loads in it.

In 2005, Ruger discontinued that model and delivered a slimmer, trimmer, lighter revolver, named New Vaquero to satisfy Cowboy Action Shooters who wanted a good, solid revolver that was more "Colt like".
This one will come apart with Ruger Only .45 Colt loads. Don't do it.

In the last couple years, Ruger has stopped stamping the New Vaquero with the word New. It is still the lighter, slimmer, trimmer gun that will not handle Ruger Only loads. It's just marked Vaquero.

I own a couple .45 Colt Vaqueros. The Original pre 2005 models. They handle and shoot very nicely. Heavy and robust guns.Ruger's color case finish is just that. It is a finish and not color case hardening, so it does rub of or rust easily. I have a couple bald spots on one of mine. They aren't really noticable unless you're really looking for them. It has no effect on how the gun functions.

I've also got a couple Blackhawks in .45 Colt as well. Well built revolvers again. I'd say buy one and use it. It'll serve you very well for decades.
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Old 11-11-2012, 03:34 AM
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Have 4 of them. One 44 Special, 3 45 Colts. One is an old model. Buy it and never look back. With resaonable care they will be passed down to the next 2 generations.

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Old 06-22-2013, 08:44 AM
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Guess it is time to add my 2 cents. I can't see why anyone would buy anything except a Ruger when it comes to a single action revolver. They are very well made, will shoot any ammo you can buy at a store, are easy to disassemble or customize. They will last a lifetime and beyond. People buy Heritage, USFA, and Uberti's to save money, to me that doesn't make sense, but I have always considered quality before being cheap. I have found when you buy a fine firearm in a few months you will forget about paying a bit more, but if the gun is cheap and you have trouble with it, you will never be happy with your purchase.
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Old 06-22-2013, 09:30 AM
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You really don't save that much money. I have more Rugers than anything else, but the Italian guns are nice. If you really want to know what is what, get what the SASS shooters use. Here is what I want next
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A tuned Ruger is about $65.00 more. The transfer bar on the Rugers can be a problem.
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I've probably had 10 Ruger Super Black Hawk's - I think the world of the one I have left. It'll stay with me until the end. I bought a Uberti 44 Special copy of the Colt "P". That pistol handles just right and it is a pleasure to carry. I paid more for it than what Ruger's 44 Special cost, but Ruger had not come out with their 44 Special until after I bought the Uberti. I really like that Uberti, the only other Italian revolver I have is a copy of the Remington 58. Beautiful revolver, but it isn't in the same class as the center fires.
The Super Black Hawk is the most accurate and will handle much heavier loads. Shooting that 44 Special though is a lot of fun. Which is better? That is like saying which girl is prettier. Why not have both?
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:49 AM
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You really don't save that much money. I have more Rugers than anything else, but the Italian guns are nice. If you really want to know what is what, get what the SASS shooters use. Here is what I want next
LONG HUNTER SHOOTING SUPPLY
A tuned Ruger is about $65.00 more. The transfer bar on the Rugers can be a problem.
Just so you know, not all SASS shooters shoot what they sell. Any of these well known shooters that have a gun business are in that business to make money, so many times they talk about what they sell hoping to sell more guns. I know for a fact the $1300 'cowboy ready' rifles some of these guys sell are no better than what you can buy for $750. Most of us that have some mechanical ability can disassemble and tune up toggle action rifles, and Ruger single action postols. I think you will find a Ruger is much easier to tune than any Italian copy of a Colt.

The link you provided shows an Italian copy of a Ruger Montado that sells for $615, which is more than a Montado sold for when it first came out. Granted, when Montado was first offered, it was made only in 45 Colt, and you couldn't buy it from Ruger. The Montado was not SASS legal for the average shooter, it was designed for and legal only for mounted shooters. Now days it is offered in 357 Mag and has SASS logos on the grip panels.
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Old 06-23-2013, 07:42 AM
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"Just so you know, not all SASS shooters shoot what they sell. Any of these well known shooters that have a gun business are in that business to make money, so many times they talk about what they sell hoping to sell more guns. I know for a fact the $1300 'cowboy ready' rifles some of these guys sell are no better than what you can buy for $750."

Thank you Captain Obvious. I have a .45 Montado. I still want the "Running Iron" - apparently my statement "If you really want to know what is what, get what the SASS shooters use" was not plain enough for you. By the way, where do you get a new/good 1873 for $750.00?

Unfortunately, I do not have the "mechanical ability" to do the following which is included, but I'm glad you do.

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Hone all internal parts
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Replace all springs with Lee's "Gunslinger Spring Kit"
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Rework sear and hammer for crisp 2 1/2lb trigger pull
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Open forcing cone to 11 degrees
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Square barrel face
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Check cylinder gap and head space
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Set timing and advance bolt drop
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Old 06-28-2013, 06:34 AM
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. . . People buy Heritage, USFA, and Uberti's to save money, . . .
I have no problem with your post other than I know of no one who buys USFA to save money. Have you ever priced their single actions? They DON'T give them away. Just my dos centavos YMMV
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I purchased a Taurus Gaucho to save some $, that was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made!, it's been replaced with an Uberti, that's a nice revolver! and I'm a Ruger guy!
I also agree that if you are finding USFA revolvers at competitive prices they must be stolen!, they are the priciest of the whole lot!
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:20 PM
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I have big hands and the all the Vaqueros I've shot banged the heck out of my middle finger.
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I have a pair of Vaqueros in Stainless. Got them a couple of years ago for Cowboy Fast Draw. They work really well. Lots of fast draw people use them. I have shot a couple of boxes of cowboy action lead loads out of them also. Now have to sell them due to med bills. Darn it anyway!
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I have no problem with your post other than I know of no one who buys USFA to save money. Have you ever priced their single actions? They DON'T give them away. Just my dos centavos YMMV
I didn't say you buy only USFA to save money, I said people buy Italian copies to save money. There are many Italian copies. I wouldn't buy USFA for any amount of money after a close friend bought a pair and had nothing but trouble with them. Sending them back to USFA didn't fix the problem, but a local gun smith finally did. If you buy Ruger the first time around you won't be sorry. I have a few Taurus revolvers, but I've never wasted money on Gaucho's. To answer another posters question, yes, there are '73 rifles available for $750. They may not be slicked up like those some of the "Cowboy Gunshops" peddle, but they aren't junk either and they are easy to slick up yourself. You can't buy a 'tuned" Ruger from Ruger, only from a business that specializes in tuning guns for a profit. Sorry if you don't have the mechanical ability to work on your own stuff Mortimer, many people do, it is not that difficult. Many of the things you mention to tune up a Ruger revolver are not necessary to make it shoot well. Some of these things are done so a dealer can make you think it is necessary and charge more for the gun.
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I have two Ruger Vaqueros in .45 Colt, both are the older version. I used them for cowboy action shooting when I was shooting that game on a regular basis.

They're good guns, but there are two things I don't like about them: First, as with all factory guns these days the internal parts are rough and seem like they were made on a bench grinder. Take that new gun apart and stone the internals; that solves the problem. They overcome the rough parts with super-heavy springs, but a spring kit costs less than $20. Stoning and replacing the springs makes for a smooth gun.

Secondly, on the old model Vaqueros the loading gate doesn't line up with the empty chamber when you rotate the cylinder until it clicks. In other words, you have to load / unload each chamber BETWEEN cylinder clicks. If you accidentally over-rotate the cylinder, you'll have to spin all the way around to get back to that chamber. Annoying. I bought a "free spin pawl" from Cylinder and Slide, so now my cylinder spins freely in both directions whenever I open the loading gate. I don't know if the New Vaqueros have this problem or not.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:11 PM
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I have two Ruger Vaqueros in .45 Colt, both are the older version. I used them for cowboy action shooting when I was shooting that game on a regular basis.

They're good guns, but there are two things I don't like about them: First, as with all factory guns these days the internal parts are rough and seem like they were made on a bench grinder. Take that new gun apart and stone the internals; that solves the problem. They overcome the rough parts with super-heavy springs, but a spring kit costs less than $20. Stoning and replacing the springs makes for a smooth gun.

Secondly, on the old model Vaqueros the loading gate doesn't line up with the empty chamber when you rotate the cylinder until it clicks. In other words, you have to load / unload each chamber BETWEEN cylinder clicks. If you accidentally over-rotate the cylinder, you'll have to spin all the way around to get back to that chamber. Annoying. I bought a "free spin pawl" from Cylinder and Slide, so now my cylinder spins freely in both directions whenever I open the loading gate. I don't know if the New Vaqueros have this problem or not.
On the new Vaquero and Black Hawk, there is an allen screw just below the transfer bar you can back out and make your gun work like a free spin pawl. Most people don't take their Vaquero's apart and clean up the inside and install a spring kit, but it's worth it if you do. Not hard to do some of these things once you know how.
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My favorite caliber is 45 Colt. I've had several (numerous?) in various incarnations. From Model 25 S & W to double action Colts (1878), to Colt's (still have 4), clones (Ubertis) and numerous Rugers (om, NM, Blackhawk, Vaqueros and SBH).

For diehard, rhinoceros tough, stake your life on it, the one pistol to carry anywhere on this or any other planet and face anything that walks, talks, or crawls: It is an OM Ruger Blackhawk, converted, in 45 Colt. Here in "griz country", I carry a 45 Colt, "old model" Vaquero (the "large frame" one that'll handle Ruger-only loads) while hunting=same reasons but shorter==a hair less versatile due to fixed sights.

Nothing wrong with the Colt's or the clones. Fine guns for the prices==you get what you pay for. Colt's are luxury, clones are good guns, and Rugers are tanks!
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I've a Ruger in 45 colt but I don't know if it's a new or old model.. how does one tell..?? B2B
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