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Old 12-27-2012, 12:55 AM
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> "OH MY GOD

This in my opinion is exactly what is wrong with America. There was a time when using the Lord's name in vain once, was considered a sin worse then using profane four letter words multiple times in a sentence. Now OMG is used even in Pam Cooking spray commercials with blueberry muffins talking to each other.

Demons have nothing much to fear any more in the USA, though they avoid private schools because many of them are Christian and the buildings themselves have been blessed with olive oil, something to be avoided by them if someone was wise enough to do the corner stone too.

My mother used to take her .22 long rifle and shot gun to school for target practice and store them in her school locker (public school). I heard Sen. John Glen say the same thing and that it never occurred to them to ever shoot someone over a dispute.

Kids use to carry folding pocket knives to school all the time and they never stabbed or slashed each other. Even bullies had a code of honor of fighting fair.

What changed is the spirit of America and the intentional removing of God from the classroom in 1962 and from public policy there after. Nixon did it in 1972 killing the gold standard against Deut 28:12 to borrow for Vietnam and Roe vs. Wade did it in Jan 1973 against Luke 1:36 with 1st degree murder.

40 year probation periods are up and no amount of school security will be effective against a demon controlled person when God removes his protecting hand. I already have a fair idea if I was a terrorist or demon how I would strike a school to inflict 300+ killed, because they thrive with hands on terror.

When was the last time someone ambushed and killed two fire fighters responding to a call?

When was the first/last time (Mr. Stack) someone committed suicide to take out a tax office?

You can put armed guards with black belts in every class room, it is not going to make any difference unless there is a Christian there to intercede on a personal level that God loves and respects.

America is in the midst of demonic possession and is being stung to death by the scorpions and sucked dry, but, is too drunk to notice.

It is only going to get FAR worse and not better, I think an ill wind was thrown to earth Dec 21st 2012 and it is just waiting for permission to do something after Jan 22 2013.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:21 AM
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God used to guard each child at school but he has been removed.
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Old 12-27-2012, 06:22 AM
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Twenty three year ago at this very time of year I had an unusual experience that relates to your concerns. I hope you find comfort in it. Before I begin, I want you to know that I'm not selling anything here, not do I expect anyone to believe a word of what I say. What I tell you is true and I live with this everyday. This is only one portion of my experience.

I was taken in spirit for 35 to 40 minutes. It could have been a dream but I do not think so. What happened has been described as a near-death-like experience.

Without going into great detail, I was taken to a gated garden which contained impeccably kept rows of flowers as far as the eye could see. The flowers were of different types; some consisted of a few rows, others many. The flowers represented the peoples of the earth by nationality. by race or tribe. The garden was perfectly kept and I saw a single gardener toiling away in earnest.

A long story short is that the gardener was Jesus Christ. I was given a message and told to write about it. The message is that He is alive, well, caring, loving and in charge. No matter what happens in this life, have faith in Him. He is at the helm no matter the negative things that happen in our lives... and those things will happen, to include natural disasters.

Do not fear. Have faith. You are in great, loving hands. Trust God and be comforted.

I ask no one to believe this. But I assure you, this happened to me.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:13 AM
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It happened to alot of people. Trust in God
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:18 AM
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I'm reminded of a couple scriptures (there are many others) that define America today.

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt and have done abominable iniquity; There is none who does good. Psalm 53:1

There is a way that seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death. Proverbs 14:12
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:57 PM
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The world hasn't gotten any more or less evil than it's ever been.

People want to claim this for the sake of evangelism, but it isn't the case at all.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:59 PM
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God used to guard each child at school but he has been removed.
Please.

If this is a reference to Newtown, it's way out of line.
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:44 AM
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IMO.........the Good Lord has little to do with things these days because he's been denied. Humans think they are smarter than God now. No respect for simple human life is where we are. We can always ask for the Lord's help and intervention. Thing is...........the Lord has no good reason to help those whom won't help themselves. He gave us salvation once and we didn't learn. So.....what would you expect of Him now? Time to grow up and take your penance, and demand less of God and more of yourself.
Ask yourself why God is so far removed from this world now at this time. How could it happen? More evil? Man is evil. Your fellow man is willing to kill you for very little gain. Water, a dollar bill, a cigarette, first in line at Wal Mart on Black Friday? Look at the world around you. See what America has become and come to terms with it. Why do you think the middle east nations despise us? God is lacking in our society now because we let it happen. Just like giving up your 2nd amendment rights to the government. It's all going down because YOU let it get to this point. GOD....country.....your soul. There's a price on everything now, and nobody seems willing to put forth the effort to save their own ideals. Pathetic.
Remember the days the kids would say all they wanted for Christmas was peace on earth? How much do the children learn in public schools now in one nation under God? Separation of church and state might be a good clue. Look at a dollar bill and find 'In God we trust' and it's simply a defiance now. It should read 'We are smarter than God and so be it'. Sort of like opting out of social security. Quit taking it out of my paycheck and I'll never ask for a hand-out.
Any time you want to debate religion, politics, and how much worse things can get here in North America.................................you just let me know whether you like your coffee black, with cream, with sugar, or both.
How much worse can it get?
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Old 12-28-2012, 06:52 PM
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Good post JBee! I couldn't agree more!
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:30 PM
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"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". Edmund Burke

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Old 12-29-2012, 04:21 AM
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Romans 1:22, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". Welcome to the USA.

Jbee, couldn't agree more. Rascal, I don't doubt you in the least. As Hogeman alluded to, you aren't alone in your experience.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:13 AM
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[QUOTE=sharps4590;651645]Romans 1:22, "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools". Welcome to the USA.

You got it 4590.
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Old 12-29-2012, 06:48 PM
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Don't let all these things trouble you. It is out of your hands. Trust, do not fret. Above all, beware the second death. John the Baptist had it right. Killing the body is a minor thing. What happens later is the ultimate concern.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:03 AM
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Please.

If this is a reference to Newtown, it's way out of line.
I'll not jump in nor speak for the man, but I will gladly tell you that is NOT what Jodum inferred.

What I read from it is that the schools removed God and the Bible from the classroom.
I'm 49 this Jan, went to PUBLIC schools in liberal northern NJ, but there was a bible in every class. That was late 60's to thru to 82. THAT is what I think Jodum means. I'm sure he will reply.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:28 PM
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Please.

If this is a reference to Newtown, it's way out of line.
What is out of line about it? I think he was spot on. In fact, if we don't ask God to get back into our schools, into our public places, and in our lives we can expect more bad things to happen. We, as a Nation, have asked him to stay away and to not intervene. We shouldn't be surprised when he grants our wish.
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I didn't think jodum's post had anything to do with Newtown, either. I saw it as a statement that God has been removed from our schools, as well as from much of American society. We can thank Margaret Murray O'Hare for that. My dad went to school in the 1930s and through the 1940s. Neither he nor his 12 or 13 brothers and sisters ever had any trouble with the law. That's the way it was in those days: Law and authority was respected. Not anymore.

And whom do we have to blame for this? I blame LBJ and his Great Society: The greatest and most powerful mechanism ever devised to destroy a People in particular and a nation in general. The Great Society destroyed the Black American Family in particular and America as a whole. I think that was the distinct purpose of the Great Society: To place Blacks forever into dependency upon the government so as to create a permanent voting bloc for the Marxocrats. In my mind, what the Tyranny-crats have done is a crime. About 15% of our population is now forever and ever dependent upon government for their daily survival. That's a crime. How would you like to be there? Makes my skin crawl to even think about it happening to me...
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Please.

If this is a reference to Newtown, it's way out of line.
Mr Rat,

you have a way of taking EVERYTHING out of context and in such an absolute literal way even when it's something just being used as an example. I don't think for one second Jodum meant that, that way. Also the Pledge of Allegiance is a no no these day's, no bible verses on paper banners before a football game anymore, take God off of the money, when and where does the madness end with the very wide and far left ? You say we need more control, well you might be correct where some of this craziness is concerned. The left seriously needs to be put under control to stop telling everyone in this country we can't pray anymore or have a bible in school's, or no more Pledges, and on and on yet the left doesn't want control over anything they believe in, just run rampant. Hypocrisy and Double Standard are two of the most uncontrolled things being used by the liberals relentlessly endlessly !! If people don't want a Bible, don't buy it, don't want to pray, tell your kids to stand quietly while the others do, tell your son not to run through the bible banners if you don't want him too and let the others do what they want. I assume you want respect, so that can be given, right ?
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I suspect it is because we used to live in smaller close knit communities with more stable nuclear families. Today most live in larger towns and families tend to be temporary living arrangements.

When we compare contemporary groups living lifestyles similar to those of the past I see little different.

We did it to ourselves. Where else did all the population increase that made these social changes inevitable come from if not ourselves. That is why no matter how much we may object it is inevitable that eventually we will lose the tradition of hunting. It will be impossible for everyone to partake and those who are not active participants will lose incentive to protect the tradition. With disinterest by a larger segment of society we will lose the political base to make its continuation possible.

It is not about God either. It is the disappearance of religious tolerance and sensitivity on all sides of the issue. Everyone is taking a love it or leave it stance. Remeinds me of the mentality of the US Congress.
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I suspect it is because we used to live in smaller close knit communities with more stable nuclear families. Today most live in larger towns and families tend to be temporary living arrangements.

When we compare contemporary groups living lifestyles similar to those of the past I see little different.

We did it to ourselves. Where else did all the population increase that made these social changes inevitable come from if not ourselves. That is why no matter how much we may object it is inevitable that eventually we will lose the tradition of hunting. It will be impossible for everyone to partake and those who are not active participants will lose incentive to protect the tradition. With disinterest by a larger segment of society we will lose the political base to make its continuation possible.

It is not about God either. It is the disappearance of religious tolerance and sensitivity on all sides of the issue. Everyone is taking a love it or leave it stance. Remeinds me of the mentality of the US Congress.
So it's a good thing some states are limiting the purchase of prescription drugs that are used to make meth! I'm all for it. Less meth heads on the street....less likely I'll be drawn into a confrontation where I may end up doing what I don't want to even though I'm ready.
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Not to hijack this thread but I just had a similar conversation with a couple guys on another forum, neither liked the things I said about our current battle.
They started making disparaging remarks about churches and crosses and name calling.
It seems that with all the hoopla going on people are joining gun forums with an agenda of their own and it is not about being pro gun.
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