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Old 04-19-2005, 03:27 PM
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M48 yugo accuracy?


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anybody own one of these and what type of accuracy have you
experienced,I have only used FNM '70s' ammo w/results of 3.5 moa approx. 46yr old eyes!
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Old 04-19-2005, 03:58 PM
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How's the bore? Some of the 48 / 48A Yugos in this country are literally brand new (as in never been fired), and some have crappy bores.

If it's a good bore, with good sights that you can see, and decent ammo, I'd expect one to be a very good shooter indeed.

Try a box or two of commercial ammo before you pass final judgement. Some of the surplus stuff is crappy, at best. Surprisingly, I have one old mauser that will shoot Egyptian ball much better than commercial soft points, but that has to be pretty uncommon.....
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Welcome to the Forum.

I have several Model 48 and 48A Yugoslav rifles and they shoot better with reloads than military ammo. Your 3.5 M.O.A. is probably not all that bad at 100 yards using military ammo. A bit of practice, a solid rest and better ammo might shrink those groups a bit. Good luck. All the best...
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Old 04-20-2005, 03:09 AM
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I have an M48A that had some rust in the bore. Cleaned it out and got an average of 5 MOA (5 rounds) with the Turkish surplus. Found when they crimped the case, they deformed the bullet as well. Tried some other surplus, better quality ammo and it shrunk the groups to 3 MOA. Commercial held about the same too.

Slugged the bore and found it's a hair big, almost .324". Lapped the Lee 175gr mold till it was throwing them closer to .325", seat the GC & lube w/ .325" die. Driving these around 2100 fps with IMR-4350 they avg. 1.5" @ 100 and 3.75" @ 200
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I have an M48, which I have worked over a bit, to improve the accuracy. I get 1.5 - 2.5 MOA average with some commercial ammo (and iron sights). Most of the milsurp ammo I've tried does no better than 3.5 MOA, at best...(and some, considerably worse). I plan to start handloading 8mm ammo sometime soon - so that I can work up an accurate, do-all load (for target shooting as well as hunting).
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Old 04-20-2005, 06:18 PM
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The Romanian and Polish 8x57 mil surplus shoots pretty decent in the 183 & 198gr loading. Have yet to get any accuracy better than 3.5" myself with any of the lighter bullets including with my other 8x57 rifles.
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Old 04-23-2005, 05:22 AM
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appreciate the insights!
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Old 04-26-2005, 06:19 PM
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Most of the shooters on the milsurp forums consider 3.5 very good with surplus ammo & irons @ 100yds. HTH
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mod70, all depends on the condition of the bore, even those that are a little rough or loose will still shoot pretty decent if fed the right combination. All of my 8x57 do prefer a heavier bullet and they are only a few dollars more per case than the light ones, just got to watch for them.

I get a little fussy with my mil surp rifles trying to find what each ones likes best....always striving for that better group despite the use and wear on everything. Just part of the fun for me. Best shooter I have is a rough on the outside 91/30 with a near new bore which will hold an inch or less at 100 on a good day for both me and rifle but this is rare. Sure is fun to have a couple guys on the line look at the rifle and snicker then pop 10 rounds of surp ammo off and show them the 1.25" group it printed....snickers seem to fade away quickly as they look at their "pretty" rifles.
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beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;)

[QUOTE=markkw]mod70, all depends on the condition of the bore, even those that are a little rough or loose will still shoot pretty decent if fed the right combination. All of my 8x57 do prefer a heavier bullet and they are only a few dollars more per case than the light ones, just got to watch for them.

Mine like the heavies as well. FWIW, 3.5" groups are a bit large for me personally to consider as 'very good' accuracy--I was just stating what a lot of the guys at the milsurp forums consider good. For most shooters though, it is difficult to do much better than 2-3" with issue sights on Mausers such as the 24/47 and 48 series. The sights are just too hard to see clearly. Putting a set of MoJo's on one changes things for the better, pretty significantly in a lot of cases. Many of the 24/47s out there right now come with new barrels but, right around 3" groups was 'milspec' for many countries for NEW infantry rifles in wartime. These guns were designed for 'minute of torso' and the ability to perform reliably under very adverse conditions. While some do exhibit outstanding accuracy, especially when scoped, many specimens with excellent looking bores still hover around the milspec guidelines for accuracy. Frequently, and to their credit, even specimens with bores that look rather poor by many peoples standards, assumming the crown has not been damaged or the rifleing totally shot out, continue to shoot fairly close to milspec even after being ridden hard and put up wet during the rigors of war. You have to love those old warhorses; they were built to last and they did so, still providing many hours of enjoyment to shooters and collectors alike
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