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LA County bans sale of guns/ammo on county property
California Officials Ban Gun, Ammo Sales on County Land
By Jeffrey L. Rabin
LOS ANGELES TIMES -- LOS ANGELES Over the vocal objections of some gun owners, a divided Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday banned the sale of guns and ammunition on all county property, a move aimed at driving the nation’s largest gun show from the county fairgrounds. The decision on a 3-2 vote came two weeks to the day after a white supremacist allegedly fired an semiautomatic weapon into the North Valley Jewish Community Center in the city’s Granada Hills district wounding three children, a teen-age camp counselor and a receptionist. The alleged gunman, Buford O. Furrow Jr., told authorities he later shot and killed a postal worker delivering mail in a nearby San Fernando Valley neighborhood. The shootings, the latest in a spring and summer of deadly rampages across the country, sparked demands for tougher gun control laws and tighter regulation of weekend gun shows. Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky pressed for passage of the ordinance that bans the sale of guns and ammunition on all county property, including county buildings, beaches, parks, and the fairgrounds in Pomona, a city east of Los Angeles. “The biggest gun show in the United States is held right here in this county on land owned by the taxpayers of this county,” he said. Yaroslavsky remarked that some of the illegal automatic weapons possessed by the gunmen who engaged in a fierce firefight with police outside a bank in North Hollywood two years ago were traced back to the Pomona show. “Enough is enough,” he said. “The time has come to put an end to this.” Karl Amelang, president of Great Western Shows, which operates four gun shows a year at the fairgrounds, sharply criticized Yaroslavsky’s approach. He told the board the show and its 2,000 exhibitors “will be severely damaged by this demagoguery.” He vowed to file suit to challenge the ordinance, which is expected to take effect before the next Pomona gun show in October. “Instead of addressing the underlying causes for the unfortunate assaults by twisted minds on innocent victims,” Amelang said, “this motion is a thinly veiled attempt to destroy the constitutional rights of a legal entity.” County Sheriff Lee Baca called on the supervisors to halt the sale of weapons and ammunition on county property. A former Marine and member of the National Rifle Association, Baca said: “Unfortunately, in this country we have a gun industry that hides behind the Second Amendment,” said the sheriff. Baca testified while flanked by the local head of the federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobcaao and Firearms and a representative of the California Attorney General’s office. The proposal to ban the sale of guns and ammunition drew gun control advocates and gun owners, who demanded that their constitutional right to keep and bear arms be protected. The board’s vote to approve the ban was greeted with boos and chants of “shame on you.” “Gun shows are the breeding grounds for the birth of violence in our society,” said sister Una Connolly, who works with gang youths in the San Fernando Valley who, she said, boast that they easily can obtain high-powered weaponry.
This story was published on Wednesday, August 25, 1999.
This should make Ms. Pelosi very happy!!
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11-20-2006, 08:49 PM
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I'm thinking this is the ideal time to upgrade to "Life" member of the NRA...
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11-21-2006, 08:14 AM
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Thought they had already done this several years ago - maybe it was another fruitcake Kalifornie city, though.
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11-21-2006, 08:33 AM
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Just another reason to stay out of The Peoples Republic of Communist California. Stay clear of spending any money their way. Haven't been there in years and won't until freedom returns.
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11-21-2006, 08:32 PM
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I moved out of CA in '71, and it's been in steady decline ever since…
Ronald Reagan must be rolling in his grave!
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11-21-2006, 09:24 PM
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This is why I have stockpiles of 'things', survival goods and other means of not relying on the Big City controlled government.
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11-22-2006, 08:32 AM
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Thought they had already done this several years ago -
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I just noticed the last line; that this was a 1999 story. I wonder what has happened with gang violence since? Did it go down? Are they actually using fewer of their "weapons of choice"?
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11-27-2006, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jean1948
California Officials Ban Gun, Ammo Sales on County Land
By Jeffrey L. Rabin
LOS ANGELES TIMES -- LOS ANGELES Over the vocal objections of some gun owners, a divided Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors on Tuesday banned the sale of guns and ammunition on all county property, a move aimed at driving the nation’s largest gun show from the county fairgrounds. The decision on a 3-2 vote came two weeks to the day after a white supremacist allegedly fired an semiautomatic weapon into the North Valley Jewish Community Center in the city’s Granada Hills district wounding three children, a teen-age camp counselor and a receptionist. The alleged gunman, Buford O. Furrow Jr., told authorities he later shot and killed a postal worker delivering mail in a nearby San Fernando Valley neighborhood. The shootings, the latest in a spring and summer of deadly rampages across the country, sparked demands for tougher gun control laws and tighter regulation of weekend gun shows. Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky pressed for passage of the ordinance that bans the sale of guns and ammunition on all county property, including county buildings, beaches, parks, and the fairgrounds in Pomona, a city east of Los Angeles. “The biggest gun show in the United States is held right here in this county on land owned by the taxpayers of this county,” he said. Yaroslavsky remarked that some of the illegal automatic weapons possessed by the gunmen who engaged in a fierce firefight with police outside a bank in North Hollywood two years ago were traced back to the Pomona show. “Enough is enough,” he said. “The time has come to put an end to this.” Karl Amelang, president of Great Western Shows, which operates four gun shows a year at the fairgrounds, sharply criticized Yaroslavsky’s approach. He told the board the show and its 2,000 exhibitors “will be severely damaged by this demagoguery.” He vowed to file suit to challenge the ordinance, which is expected to take effect before the next Pomona gun show in October. “Instead of addressing the underlying causes for the unfortunate assaults by twisted minds on innocent victims,” Amelang said, “this motion is a thinly veiled attempt to destroy the constitutional rights of a legal entity.” County Sheriff Lee Baca called on the supervisors to halt the sale of weapons and ammunition on county property. A former Marine and member of the National Rifle Association, Baca said: “Unfortunately, in this country we have a gun industry that hides behind the Second Amendment,” said the sheriff. Baca testified while flanked by the local head of the federal Bureau of Alcohol Tobcaao and Firearms and a representative of the California Attorney General’s office. The proposal to ban the sale of guns and ammunition drew gun control advocates and gun owners, who demanded that their constitutional right to keep and bear arms be protected. The board’s vote to approve the ban was greeted with boos and chants of “shame on you.” “Gun shows are the breeding grounds for the birth of violence in our society,” said sister Una Connolly, who works with gang youths in the San Fernando Valley who, she said, boast that they easily can obtain high-powered weaponry.
This story was published on Wednesday, August 25, 1999.
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jean, what's up? That story is seven years old.
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11-27-2006, 03:36 PM
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Excellent information to have. My network of friends are now bombarded with links.
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11-27-2006, 07:47 PM
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MMichaelAK:
That's my error. I was so upset with the article I failed to check the date it came out. Still useful as nothing has changed for the better!!
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11-27-2006, 08:15 PM
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Wow!
It must be due to our combined ages that we missed the fact that this was so old. Well that is about when I stopped going to CA, ok maybe a couple of years later. Ah the years they sneak up on us don't they.
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11-28-2006, 01:23 PM
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I feel sorry for my gunnie friends in CA!
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The press would NEVER do a follow up story to find if the Ordanance made any difference would they. Might find out crime went up in spite of banning the shows.
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12-06-2006, 09:03 PM
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Funny you mention it ... I did exactly that last night thinking the very same, although it had nothing to do with this thread and more about what might happen in the present and future. Come on now alyeska, pony it up  ... it will only set you back one gun, maybe two in the short run  .
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12-06-2006, 10:36 PM
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Funny you mention it ... I did exactly that last night thinking the very same, although it had nothing to do with this thread and more about what might happen in the present and future. Come on now alyeska, pony it up  ... it will only set you back one gun, maybe two in the short run  .
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12-07-2006, 02:02 AM
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This is all old news the LA misguided banned the largest Gun Show in the US when they stopped the Great Western Gun Shows.I buy very little from LA and didn't go to any events at the LA Fairgrounds for years after the lefties banned the Great Western .It hasn't curtailed criminal activity or gang banger violence that's one of the cities where it's safer to be armed than not.
Last edited by kiddekop; 12-07-2006 at 02:10 AM.
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