Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban
The Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration.
By JASON RYAN
WASHINGTON, Feb. 25, 2009


The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.
PHOTO Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration.
Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration.
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"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

"I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum." Holder said at a news conference on the arrest of more than 700 people in a drug enforcement crackdown on Mexican drug cartels operating in the U.S.

Mexican government officials have complained that the availability of sophisticated guns from the United States have emboldened drug traffickers to fight over access routes into the U.S.

A State Department travel warning issued Feb. 20, 2009, reflected government concerns about the violence.

"Some recent Mexican army and police confrontations with drug cartels have resembled small-unit combat, with cartels employing automatic weapons and grenades," the warning said. "Large firefights have taken place in many towns and cities across Mexico, but most recently in northern Mexico, including Tijuana, Chihuahua City and Ciudad Juarez."

At the news conference today, Holder described his discussions with his Mexican counterpart about the recent spike in violence.

"I met yesterday with Attorney General Medina Mora of Mexico, and we discussed the unprecedented levels of violence his country is facing because of their enforcement efforts," he said.

Holder declined to offer any time frame for the reimplementation of the assault weapons ban, however.

"It's something, as I said, that the president talked about during the campaign," he said. "There are obviously a number of things that are –– that have been taking up a substantial amount of his time, and so, I'm not sure exactly what the sequencing will be."
In a brief interview with ABC News, Wayne LaPierre, president of the National Rifle Association, said, "I think there are a lot of Democrats on Capitol Hill cringing at Eric Holder's comments right now."

During his confirmation hearing, Holder told the Senate Judiciary Committee about other gun control measures the Obama administration may consider.

"I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.

The Assault Weapons Ban signed into law by President Clinton in 1994 banned 19 types of semi-automatic military-style guns and ammunition clips with more than 10 rounds.

"A semi-automatic is a quintessential self-defense firearm owned by American citizens in this country," LaPierre said. "I think it is clearly covered under Heller and it's clearly, I think, protected by the Constitution."
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Considering the NRA helped write the original AWBs in 1934, 1968, and 1994, I'm a bit distrusting of LaPierre, but hopefully I am wrong.

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First, a language lesson, and then some gun-related politics.

These statements are absolutely true:

I brush my teeth on the first of every month.

I like eating sardines and ice cream.



Now, I guarantee that you misunderstood both of those true statements. From the first statement, you probably think my teeth are green and furry by February 26th, because you thought I said I brush my teeth ONLY on the first of the month. I said no such thing. I brush my teeth every day - including on the first.

You may have retched when you read the second statement. But you again misunderstood. You assumed I like sardines WITH ice cream. I do like sardines, and I also like ice cream. But I never said I like them together.


Now the politics.

BO Diddler said he will ban assault weapons.

The NRA helped write the original ASW bill.


Both are true - BUT...

BO Diddler never said he'd ban ONLY assault weapons. The NRA helped write the ASW bill so that it wouldn't be many times worse than it was.


Catching on now?

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The guns given the name assault weapons are rarely used to "assault" people in this country and in fact any gun that has been used to commit a crime can be called an assault weapon same as a pair of fists or a length of pipe. I just don't understand how people are so easily manipulated in this country...perhaps it's that thing called college education or is it programming?

Not sure what to think of this.


Pelosi tosses cold water on assault weapon ban
By Mike Soraghan
Posted: 02/26/09 11:59 AM [ET]

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi tossed cold water on the prospect of reinstating the assault weapons ban, highlighting Democrats’ reluctance to take on gun issues.

Attorney General Eric Holder raised the prospect Wednesday that the administration would push to bring back the ban. But Pelosi (D-Calif.) indicated on Thursday that he never talked to her. The Speaker gave a flat “no” when asked if she had talked to administration officials about the ban.

“On that score, I think we need to enforce the laws we have right now,” Pelosi said at her weekly news conference. “I think it's clear the Bush administration didn’t do that.”

Outside of the dig at the recent Republican president, that phrase is the stock line of those who don’t want to pass new gun control laws, such as the National Rifle Association.

The White House declined to comment on Holder's remarks, referring reporters to the Department of Justice. The DoJ did not respond to The Hill's request for comment.

Pelosi really means..."not right now". Not the same as "not ever".

If it isn't this year it will be next year. DOn't fool yourself.

Yep, i don't trust her, or any politician for that matter.

I would love for AG Holder to show me the gun show "loophole" there is no such thing. Also, all bullets kill, except for the plastic ones - but those could put an eye out.

Rocky-
While I am not the scholar I'd like to be on the NFA, GCA, and AWB acts, I'm certain the NRA didn't fight as hard as they could on the issues.

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Matt,
You are scaring the **** out of me. I was going to post the same thing but you beat me to it!!!

All I can say is contact your reps! Fight this with your every breath....

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Matt, if I remember correctly, the NRA had a choice of losing a whole lot of ground or a little ground, but they knew they were not going to be able to defeat the bill and lose NO ground. It was done deal, and the best they could do was to do the best they could do.

That's what they should do, IMO. Fight as hard as possible even in a losing fight, and save what they can.

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I believe Rocky's right as rain here folks....and I also believe that "they" are going to try to get the guns until they do, or until "we" put a stop to it....the folks that want a one-world government are NOT going to quit...the only way they can get what they want it to disarm the American public. once that happens, we are powerless to resist any amount of tyranny they decide to force upon us. what can we do ? keep fighting ...never EVER give up. this fight is not about us, it's about the future of the free world....personally, I will probably not live to see the conflict, but sure as I'm setting here, I know it's coming....you guys that have been in the military know without a doubt what the cost of liberty and freedom is. the final battle will not be pretty, but it MUST be won by our side......

"I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me Liberty, or give me death" ... Patrick Henry.

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I notice the newspaper and TV stories on the Mexican drug gang "insurection" cite them using full auto weaponry, so Holder wants to ban guns that are not. The Teflon covered KTW "cop killer bullets" are already banned and have been since 1986, so Holder thinks it's about time we banned them.

These people haven't a clue what they are talking about except insofar as it sounds politically correct to their supporters.

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I spent 1 1/2 years in mexico, pretty much on the whole west coat as captain of a large sailboat. Even owning a single shot shotgun is almost impossible. Even a knife with both sides of the blade sharpened is illegal. But as the news shows, when you outlaw guns only the criminals will have them. And also the weapons being used are mostly full auto weapons which are very hard to get in most of the USA. Impossible almost here in Michigan. But All over the southern caribean full auto weapons are available. Was offered full auto ak's in honduras for 50 bucks. Ther weapons are coming from everywhere. Not just the USA.

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed ! Remember the Sons of Liberty !!

"Sen. Reid would oppose an effort [to] reinstate the ban if the Senate were to vote on it in the future," Manley told The Hill in an e-mail late Thursday night.

It was not immediately clear whether Reid would block the bill from the Senate, but his opposition casts serious doubt on its chances. Also, Manley noted that Reid voted against the ban in 1994 and again when it expired in 2004.

Don't think the AWB is gonna happen.

Jim

I was just about to post that. It is good news, but we need to stay on our toes and keep hounding our reps. It is a never ending fight.

I just saw the NRA notification that the new DC restrictions put in after Heller have been repealed as part of the senate version of the DC Voting Rights Act. Passed overwhelmingly. Thus far it does not appear gun control is getting any traction in this government. The fear of repeating 1994's route of Democrat control, which Clinton largely credited to gun owners, may be with them?

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All we have to do is keep standing and say no. Tell the people in office no, and if they don't listen to us vote them out. They are always going to try to take our fun and our freedoms.

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Unfortunately the Sheeple of this country will do F'all about it if it hits the controlling Democrats. The only thing we can do is get in and "Pay Off" our Legislators as so many other "Lobbyists" do on a daily basis.
Vote them out, that is even a bigger joke today. Who votes?? Take a look at the voting population and the percentages.
And you think this is a problem look at all the new taxes that are coming into reality. What will happen? Nada, you will pay and whine during a time when the term " Taxation without Representation", has become a normal course of business.

My friend its almost a done deal.

I rarely contribute financially to causes, but I think our last stand is the NRA and they will get a check or two from me.
Enough of this..... as new to the forums, I dont want to upset the Mods.....just yet.

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