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this is beating a dead horse. they are not in the catalog as repackage, bulk or anything else. just stated as 100 Hornady bullets.

You got it right. "...that Midway is getting bullets at a bulk discount and repackaging them to sell at full retail, without making that transparent to the consumer. "
this is exactly what they are doing. they never advertised that.....and to be legal and ethical they should have. They DID NOT. that is my complaint!

So I'm shopping competitively for Hornady 100 bullets....not unbranded bulk bullets repackaged without any Trademark identity. I'm pricing against the local box of real Hornady bullets...remembering that I have to also pay postage. If I wanted bulk...I'd have bought local bulk cheaper. Or at least I'd have known what I was purchasing before I bought them. that is the fair ethical way to sell something.

Harry.... ease up.

You ordered Hornady bullets, not a Hornady box. If you have used Hornady bullets in the past, I expect you can compare them and see if that is what you got? The shape of the ogive, to me, is the tip-off it is a Hornady bullet.

Anyway, rather than wearing a sackclothe and ashes, just have your brother call them and ask. THAT should be your remedy. If you don't put that much effort into it, then you shouldn't complain.

Everybody wants their reloading supplies cheap..... they don't want the companies to find a way to make it cheaper, though, do they?

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To paraphrase from the movie "Tommy Boy" -- "I can take a crap in a box and slap a fancy label on it, but wouldn't you rather buy a quality product?"

For the record, Harry...I get whatchyer sayin', and I agree. I don't like what Midway's doing either, but in the final analysis, you're getting what you paid for, it's just that Midway is manipulating the deal so they make full retail selling repackaged bulk bullets.

Something tells me if Midway was selling those actual Hornady bullets at a 20% discount (passing along their savings), you might not be protesting so vociferously? I mean, it's not like you ordered a box of primers and a pound of powder, and wound up paying 2 hazmat charges, in doing so. THAT would be messed up! (And it's another dumb thing Midway is doing, these days.)

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Let see. the order was about $200, and there was a $25 shipping and handling charge...but two items were not shipped as they are on back order. so there will be more shiping/handling charges.

I'm tired of paying Midway a premium, for less than premium service.

After today when I told my brothers, they said Midway had lost two more customers. No loss to me.

I believe I have some of those in the light blue plastic boxes. I dont recall what I ordered. That order would be from several yrs ago.

They readily admit buying in large lots and breaking em dowm. Do the savings get passed along?? I suspect that by the time someone counts and labels the repaks there aint much savings.

I do know that in the case of remingtn bullets when 500 are ordered you get 5x100 plastic Rem sealed bags. I have had that happen couple times on couple different caliber bullets, pistol and rifle.

I've had them do the same thing to me when I bought remington bullets for my 6.8 spc...they came in Midway packaging.

Yep. The little blue boxes were what my Corelokts came in. The price was fine too, especially considering I couldn;t find them anywhere else at the time. Now, if you were ordering Speer bullets, you'd be thanking Midway for their little boxes, because at least they snap closed and stay shut!

Harry, can you look at your invoice and say how much the bullets cost....without shipping? I'd like to look and see how much of a savings they are over other distributors. Hmm. I suppose in doing that we might either fire this thread up some more, or.........end it.

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Yeah, I'd still like to see the order information with product numbers and price so I can figure out what the OP is complaining about by looking through their catalog. I've looked and read reviews and it doesn't appear to be a secret that there is bulk packaging. If there is fraud, then I'd like to see it for myself so I can know whether to order from Midway or not. I'm an attorney, just show me the facts. Of course most of them ding you for shipping except I just got a large order from Buffalo Arms and the shipping was just barely above UPS which may have covered the cost of the two cardboard boxes which I thought was very cheap and fair. It costs me $30 in gas for a trip to buy goex so sometimes shipping isn't all that bad.

Gentlemen, this is the normal practice of Capitalism. Buy the product as inexpensively as you can and sell it for as much as you can. This is America and how it's done.

I'd bet they ARE Hornady bullets and exactly the ones you ordered, just Midway bought them bulk by the thousands and then had a minimum wage clerk repack them for peanuts. They probably made a couple more cents per bullet this way. They are ni business to make money aren't they?

They have been selling brass this way for ever. I order brass from them and I get 100 pieces of the kind I order in identical little brown cardboard boxes. Remington, Starline, Winchester, it all comes in exactly the same kind of brown boxes. I get what I order at a decent price and the headstamp is correct.

I am not being cynical or sarcastic here. Just trying to be as real as possible about this. I think you'll have a hard time getting any law enforcement arm to say this was fraudulent in any fashion. It would be nice if they passed that savings along to the consumer, but they don't have to.

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Yes, that's right! I've received their repackaged brass, and there was never a doubt that they weren't original pieces from winchester or Remington.

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I really don't see the big deal here. If a person ordered a certain product and they received the product they ordered then what is the problem? If you got what your ordered there certainly isn't any fraud going on that is for sure.

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Did you, or your brother, ever call Midway, Harry? If so, what did they say? If not, you missed an opportunity for a simple explanation.

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my thoughts also very good post mmichaelak. I have got these brown and blue boxes several times I have no doubt that they were what was paid for no problem for me. Think about being in their shoes I know I would rather pay my employees the money to break down than my vendors. Somebody has be paid to break them down.This is a little different but their is no difference in me buying a pallet of ball valves or every time i need one the customer gets good valves this is business.

As noted by several posters above, call Midway and explain the situation. My guess is that Midway will make it right.

Good companies can look bad when just one employee has a bad day and ships a messed up box that has been repackaged. Midway seems like a good company and will likely do the right thing. And you should be a good customer, and coolly and calmly let Midway management know what the issue is and give them a chance to fix it.

Please post a note to let us know how it turns out.

I have made several orders from Midway over the last few months. In each order there was at least one box of bullets from Hornady for one caliber or another. All my bullets have been shipped in the Hornady boxes. I have also purchased bullets in in the past in bulk from them and received them in the "blue" boxes. Whenever I place an order of any size I always consult several different online sellers to see who is offering the best price overall. In my case, Midway has been the best priced including shipping for over 4 years. I used to deal a lot with Midsouth but they never have what I want in stock, they take 3 days longer to ship, and they don't carry a lot of what I use. So Midway gets a thumbs up in my book, especially when you consider the C&R license break for dealers. Midsouth and most others don't even offer this but Midway does. Tell us what bullets you bought and I probably have a box I can send you if you want your bullets in a Hornady box. Who really cares as long as they shoot like they are supposed to?

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I've had this happen, too, and quit buying bullets from Midway because of it. I am very leery of bulk bullets after a BLR in .308 blew up on me after shooting a Remington bulk bullet. Bulk bullets simply can't receive the Quality Control of regularly-packaged bullet. I covered all the bases with my BLR -- local gunstore, gunsmith, Browning -- and all we could determine is one of the bullets was slightly misformed.

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I don't buy it. There had to be something else.
A slightly misformed bullet? C'mon. If it was misformed that much maybe you coulda seen it and not used it. Hump? What hump.

It's like going to Cosco and getting the giant bag of generic "Super Corn Puffs". No they aren't going to taste the same as Kellogg's Corn Pops, but because they were cheeper you will eat them and not whine.

I've bought bulk 55 grain PSP Winchesters from Larry for YEARS knowing they were blems. seconds, whatever. If I missed the varmint I was shooting at did I go whining to Larry? No. I knew I bought slightly irregular bullets so whatever happened after I loaded them and pulled the trigger was MY fault, not Larry's.

All bullets are made to form (obtruate) to the barrel. A friend of mine made a .358 Styer himself. Worked up a very accurate load and shot the rifle for 4-5 years. Then he's messing around one day and slugs the barrel for the use of cast bullets. All this time he's been shooting .358 jacketed bullets down a .338 barrel that was STAMPED .358. Is he lucky? Maybe. Would he have blamed the accident (had there been one) on the bullet/barrel/powder/primer munufacturer? No.

I've been ordering from Midway since the early 80's. I can't say I've never had a problem with an order, no one is perfect. One time I ordered 500 .224 40 grain Vmax bullets . I got 500 .204 40 grain Vmax bullets. I didn't realize this until I was ready to load bullets and the bullet fell in the case. I calls Midway and they says to send the bullets back and they'll send me the right ones.

"But I opened the box."

"No problem" they says, "we'll credit you the cost of shipping them back to us on your next order."

RJ

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Call Midway and let them know. I don't think they'll disappoint you. The one problem I ever had from something I ordered from them wasn't even their fault but they let me keep the original and just sent me a new one.

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Did this just happen recently, haven't noticed it before. Congratulation RJ !

Yep, just noticed that myself.
Congratulations RJ- small town shooter makes the big time!