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Old 11-18-2010, 04:24 PM
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Expensive, Dumb mistake!!!!!


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New, custom 6.5-284 barrel, $1,200 worth of work and six months of waiting for it ruined by one big dumb mistake. I was cleaning several rifles and put Butch's bore shine in it to soak for a little while as I cleaned the others I had already soaked. Well, somehow I managed to forget the 6.5-284 and it sat for three months. I just got it out with plans on shooting it this weekend and it's one big rusted steel tube, from end to end. Not a very happy camper right now.

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Old 11-18-2010, 06:03 PM
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Since I have never used it, what is Butch's? Is it ammonia based?
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:15 PM
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No, it's actually highly recommended by most barrel makers and benchrest shooters. It states it will not harm the metal. I think it's suppose to have a ph of approx 10 so I'm sure they didn't mean if you left it in for three months. What really sucks, this barrel has only had 53 rounds through it. This was the first time I had cleaned it since breakin.
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:24 PM
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you must have too many guns to forget it for 3 months.... dang. You just leave a big tub of bore cleaner sitting around for months on end? just wondering...
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:57 PM
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I do have a "few" but too many, that's like having a car with too much horse power. Like I said, a dumb mistake. I was cleaning four, letting the Butch's soak in each while I cleaned the other. I sat it against a file cabinet in my hobby/project/junk room, where I had two other old 700's I had bought for the actions and a couple of other rifles. I figure something came up, where I had to stop cleaning and just didn't think about that one.
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Old 11-19-2010, 05:43 AM
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BKeith, you have my sympathy. I will include your situation in my prayers tonight. Before I get blasted, I am a Christian and I am just exaggerating. You do have my deep sympathy though.
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Old 11-19-2010, 06:58 AM
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At this point, all you can do is have it rebored to a larger caliber like a 7 mm (.284).
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I do have a "few" but too many, that's like having a car with too much horse power. Like I said, a dumb mistake. I was cleaning four, letting the Butch's soak in each while I cleaned the other. I sat it against a file cabinet in my hobby/project/junk room, where I had two other old 700's I had bought for the actions and a couple of other rifles. I figure something came up, where I had to stop cleaning and just didn't think about that one.
I'm sorry, i shouldnt have kicked you while your down. I hope your able to salvage the barrel, maybe get it rebored to a larger cal as suggested.
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:26 PM
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I'll just send it back and have another new barrel installed, I want the 6.5-284. At least this time it will just be the barrel and not all the other work to blue print it. I had the recoil lugg pined so I don't have to re-bed the action so it's only about a $500 screw up. Just having to wait forever to get it back again. I couldn't do it when it was about shot out or to one of the others that I'v had a while, no! I had to do it when it was still brand new.
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Old 11-19-2010, 09:48 PM
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you don't think it would be worth a try to clean up your barrel? i have heard of milsurps with rusted bores being handlapped, which then gave reasonable accuracy.
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Old 11-20-2010, 04:24 AM
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I cleaned it good and made a couple of passes through with 1,200 grit lapping compound hopeing maybe it was just a very mild surface rust but no such luck, it pitted the crap out of it.

Yes, it would probably still out shoot most any cheap, over the counter rifle but that's not what I want. I can buy several of those for what it cost me to build one. I have this little thing about accuracy and when shooting 600 - 1,000 yds, ok don't exactly hit the target every time.

I started to have an extra barrel fitted for it when I had the rifle built but figured I would probably not shoot it enough that the barrel wouldn't last me a couple of years. I will definitely have me a spare barrel fitted for it this time. NOT that I plan on making this dumb mistake again, but the idea of how dang long it will be before I get it back sucks the most. The 6.5-284 eats barrels rather quickly when you start pushing hot loads down them.
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Old 12-06-2010, 07:10 AM
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Sorry to hear what happened. Hopefully your riflemaker has a quicker turnaround time for refitting barrels only. I don't multi-task well so I try to keep my projects simple and controllable.
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Old 12-06-2010, 08:24 AM
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Thanks for the heads up on Butches Bore Shine. Anything that will pit the barrel like happened too you is not being used in firearms of mine regardless how good its purported too be. If it has a Ph10 then that's not good Ph7 is considered neutral.
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Old 12-06-2010, 02:07 PM
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I don't blame the Butch's, I still use it and will continue to do so. With any bore solvent, you are suppose to dry the barrel and run an oil patch though it. What I did was strip all protectant out, left the solvent in, then left it near AC floor vent for a few months. The more I think about it, it may have been the KG-12 I left in it. Either way, it was my dumb*** that screwed up, I have absolutely no hard feelings for which ever product it was.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:33 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I also use Butches but only on occasion. My #1 cleaner right now is Wipe-Out. I love that stuff. I would sure give myself a swift kick in the arss if I did that.
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Old 12-19-2010, 01:14 AM
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who made that barrel? was it a known maker i.e. Hart, Krieger, lija ect?
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Old 12-19-2010, 03:51 AM
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Krieger moly.
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Old 12-19-2010, 11:14 AM
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sorry for the loss
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Old 09-04-2013, 01:13 AM
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WOW how can you forget not to finish clean what you started out to do.? Fell bad for your loss
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I clean my barrels out with Hoppe's #9 and oil them with Hoppe's #9.
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