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Old 01-14-2013, 06:37 AM
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I recently was given a Enfield No5 Mk1, the "Jungle Carbine". I Love my 5 kids!

As with all C&R rifles I tore it down for a through cleaning. After 2 hours of alternating cycles of Bore Tech Carbon Remover and Eliminator I was still pulling out blue and green patches. So I pulled out the Foul Out III and finally after several cycles of this method got the bore clean out.

I noticed that most of the copper deposits on the Foul Out rod were on the leade and bore near the chamber rather than what I normally see over the entire rod. What this telling me?

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That something's rough in that area. Perhaps it's pitted or rusty? Or, possibly (not sure of the probability of this), it's just NEVER actually been cleaned completely to bare metal. The chamber reamer will leave roughness in the bore right at the throat/leade area, so a new, not-lapped rifle barrel will always strip copper in that area. Shooting it will smooth that area out over time, but at least initially (and maybe essentially forever?) you'll get more copper there than anywhere, assuming the barrel is well-made.

Purely for future reference, KG-12 will pull A LOT more copper out than Bore Tech's products. I've used, and still have, products from both outfits, as well as a Foul-Out II. I've used Bore Tech's C4 carbon remover, Eliminator, and Cu+2 copper remover, and KG's KG-1 carbon remover, KG-2 bore polish, KG-3 spray flush, KG-4 gun oil, and KG-12 copper remover. I use the KG products under Browning's label most of the time (except KG-12 which Browning doesn't re-label) since they're available locally at a good price. Anyway, each product/machine has its place and use, but for heavy copper fouling KG-12 is a significantly better choice than Bore Tech's offerings.
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Old 01-14-2013, 10:35 AM
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Perhaps it's pitted or rusty? Or, possibly, it's just NEVER actually been cleaned completely to bare metal.
This was my thought also.

If you are using a jag and patch, make sure the rod is pulled far enough to clean this area.
Don't dip the brush into the solvent, it weakens the solvent, always apply the solvent to your brush.
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Yup! Agree. Push the brush through breech to muzzle. Then take the brush off and push it through again. DO NOT PULL IT BACK TO THE BREECH! Keep after it and you can win.
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Yup! Agree. Push the brush through breech to muzzle. Then take the brush off and push it through again. DO NOT PULL IT BACK TO THE BREECH! Keep after it and you can win.
I wish you well. Cheezywan

Just curious why you only push the brush one way?
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I prefer not to pull crud back into the action.

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Makes sense not running a dirty patch back into the barreland into the action.
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