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Old 01-30-2009, 01:00 PM
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Custom Mosin Nagant, from a toolmaker's point of view


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This is the first of hopefully many posts on this forum, I have been trying to find a forum that would allow me to post info and pics of my latest project, the other forums don't like people the butcher up guns. I have had a Mosin Nagant for 20 years tucked away in a closet and decided to build a custom gun with it. I have an AR-15 and I like the look so this influenced my design. I relocated the bolt lever and reshaped the trigger housing. Made a pistol grip and M4 stock conversion. The gun barrel has had 9 inches taken off and I recrowned it. I'm not finished yet and some of the parts are still prototypes but I hope to have it completed in the next week. Anyways here are some pics.
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Relocated bolt
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M4 stock conversion
I'll post some more pics as long as there is an interest, Thanks, Bryan
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:16 PM
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Very interesting. How does it shoot?
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:09 PM
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How did you mount the scope?
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:17 PM
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Welcome to the forum Bryshopper. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

Though I'm not an old gun type fella that is some interesting work you've done on it. I ran a small gunsmith business for a bunch of years and always look at a project in the light of what it costs. I probably wouldn't have invested the (time/money) in a rifle that doesn't have the accuracy potential of something like a Rem 700, but where your doing all the work it's an interesting project and I'll look forward to seeing where it goes.
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:03 PM
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This looks like a fun project. I'm into making things that are outside of the box too. Do you have any pictures of the steps taken to get to here. What and how you did it? When I see projects like this, it gives me ideas to build on for my projects. Great work, don't let anyone give you crap about "hacking up" a rifle they made literally Millions of. It's yours do what you want with it. It's people like us that think outside the box that come up with the great ideas of the future! JMO!
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Now, that s a direction I never would have thought to go. Interesting, and I'd be most curious to hear how it shoots.
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:30 PM
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Very interesting. How does it shoot?
I haven't shot it yet, I hope to be able to in a week or so. I will post the results when finished.
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:36 PM
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How did you mount the scope?
The scope is going to be mounted on two small risers that will be mounted atop the receiver. The rear mount actually bridges the area where the stripper clip would be inserted, this is why I relocated the bolt. I haven't finished the mounts and the scope in the pics is basically just mocked up in place.
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:36 AM
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Fantastic. You sure can't hide that that is a Mosin. It should be just the thing for these hard times. The Mosin ammo is still the cheepest around.
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Old 01-31-2009, 04:26 AM
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Interesting concept

Very nice pictures. Thanks for sharing. Take care...
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:25 PM
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This is the first of hopefully many posts on this forum, I have been trying to find a forum that would allow me to post info and pics of my latest project, the other forums don't like people the butcher up guns. I have had a Mosin Nagant for 20 years tucked away in a closet and decided to build a custom gun with it. I have an AR-15 and I like the look so this influenced my design. I relocated the bolt lever and reshaped the trigger housing. Made a pistol grip and M4 stock conversion. The gun barrel has had 9 inches taken off and I recrowned it. I'm not finished yet and some of the parts are still prototypes but I hope to have it completed in the next week. Anyways here are some pics.
[IMG][/IMG]
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Relocated bolt
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M4 stock conversion
I'll post some more pics as long as there is an interest, Thanks, Bryan
Well today I did a few changes to the project, 1st I redesigned the side covers. I wasn't real happy with the 1st set. Here is a pic of the second set
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[/IMG] Here is the pic of the parts coming off the mill.
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Here is a pic of the current look, I knurled the hand guard
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Here is a pic of the knurling process on the lathe.
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Another pic of the side.
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And last, this is for some reason my favorite picture.
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Next I plan to finish the scope mount and maybe make some sort of magazine to camouflage the stock Mosin setup.
More pics on the way.
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I'll bet I know at least one forum you're talking about. I respect their desire to preserve original specimens, but they could be a bit more civil about it. In the final analysis, it's your rifle and you do with it as you darned well please. Doing a radical mod like yours is a great mind exercise, and a great way to practice and showcase your skills. And the fact is many a new and widely-praised design was developed by "butchering" something else. I will await shooting results with eager anticipation, because I can see where you might be well on the way to turnung a sow's ear into one nice silk purse. I'm getting ready to turn a much-abused Glenfield 30A into a shorty carbine with button magazine. Why? Because I want to!:-)
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I'll bet I know at least one forum you're talking about. I respect their desire to preserve original specimens, but they could be a bit more civil about it. In the final analysis, it's your rifle and you do with it as you darned well please. Doing a radical mod like yours is a great mind exercise, and a great way to practice and showcase your skills. And the fact is many a new and widely-praised design was developed by "butchering" something else. I will await shooting results with eager anticipation, because I can see where you might be well on the way to turnung a sow's ear into one nice silk purse. I'm getting ready to turn a much-abused Glenfield 30A into a shorty carbine with button magazine. Why? Because I want to!:-)
I completely agree with you, I myself like to see what can be done with something that the average person wouldn't even consider to mess with. To me it's just time and a little scrap material. I'm also looking forward to the shooting results. I removed 8 1/2" from the barrel and recrowned it. The original barrel had some damage to the tip and that was part of the decision for cutting it down. As I said in the last post I'm going to work on the scope mount and maybe make some kind of cover up for the stock magazine. When finished I will make a short video to put on youtube and express my feeling towards the other forums. I would like to show that there are some people that can modify a rifle and make something really neat. I'm sure that I won't make any new friends, but maybe it will be a wake up call and they might change their minds on sporterizing Mosins.
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Today I made a new bolt handle and did a few mods to angle it back for a sporter style look.
Then I welded and finished it out. Here are a few pics.
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This was the beginning after I relocated the bolt handle.
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This is the finish product.
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Another view..
Tomorrow I plan on finally getting to the scope mount.
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:24 PM
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You know Bryan I'm kind of a traditional guy when it comes to guns. I've always liked wood and steel, but I also like working in metal in my shop and though I don't love what you've done it's a very interesting exercise in metal working and you've taken a barreled action that is pretty inexpensive and done something entirely different with it and totally unexpected.

I really applaud your efforts and keep your project pix coming. I'm going to be looking forward to a report on how it shoots.
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:36 PM
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Today I finally got to finish up the Mosin. I machined up the mounts for the scope and welded them to the receiver, then I made the bipod mount and finished all the other loose ends. Here are the final pics.
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Not bad for a 1928 Mosin Rifle..
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Here I have my m44 carbine version along with the modified example you can see how I changed the bolt location for my scope mount design. I plan on a trip to the range to sight in the scope and see how well it shoots. I'll post the results.
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:46 PM
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It is a beautiful piece of work. By all means, let us know how it shoots. I have a 91/30, completely unmodified, that will easily shoot 2" groups at 100 yards off the bench with milsurp ammo, so I know darned well the action and barrel are capable of fine accuracy.
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I would be interested to know how much it weights now?

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Old 02-05-2009, 12:10 PM
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Bryschopper... wow!

What a creative project! I'm not going to lie, when I saw the first photos I kind of wondered where it was going to go, but that is some great work you've done! I'm not one of the people that likes the newer "tactical" rifles, but the transformation you've done to that rifle is something else.

Let people scoff at you for doing something creative and original. I'd bet they're jealous. Maybe sporterizing a rare rifle is one thing, but when there are still piles of Mosin-Nagant rifles around waiting to be experimented with by people like you, I say more power to you.

Great work. Now go shoot it .
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I would be interested to know how much it weights now?

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The rifle weighs 12 pounds as opposed to the stock 10. I may do a little machining to the inside of the side covers to shave off some more weight.
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