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Old 02-04-2004, 04:41 PM
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Howdy all. I'm a new guy to the board and I thought I'd introduce myself. I also have a question. I am interested in coverting my Savage 111FC 7mm Rem Mag rifle, which is currently equipped with a clip magazine, to either a floor-plate type or even a blind magazine. One of the main reasons for doing this is I haven't been able to find an aftermarket stock for the Savage that will accomodate a clip. I figured this would probably take less time and end up looking better than trying to modify the stock. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:12 PM
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I recently put my clip fed Savage 110 into a Boyd's blind mag stock. I sort of rigged up my own solution to the problem. I took the magazine and popped the bottom of it off with a screwdriver and a hammer (I know, sophisticated, huh? ) The magazine follower, with spring, should fall out at that point. Then I knocked out the pin that held the spring loaded bar on the magazine holder, the part that is actually connected to the action. Then I just pushed the magazine box, minus it's bottom, into the magazine holder, and put the follower in behind that, and then put it all in the stock. The follower spring now just pushes up off the floor of the stock rather than the detachable mag floor.

The only other modifications I had to make were to open the inside of the stock magazine with a dremel tool to accomodate the bumps on the magazine holder that held the spring loaded bar, and I polished the lips on top of the magazine box with a dremel tool when I put the action back in the stock because the bolt was binding just a little bit with the chnaged pressure from the new stock.

Having said all this, you could instead order a new box magzine assembly and follower from www.gunpartscorp.com or www.savageparts.com, knock the old magazine holder out of the magazine with a mallet, and knock the new one in with a mallet. I've been told this can be done, but I'm not sure exactly how. Hopefully someone on this forum will know how to do this. My method has been effective but is admittedly a little crude.
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:55 AM
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Good idea

I looked into ordering a new magazine assembly. That's the route I intend to take, provided I can remove my old one and get the new one to fit properly. Therein lies the question: just how easy is this to do? I'm assuming the new magazine would fit since it's the same action, but then again I hate to assume anything. I'm also not too sure how to remove the existing magazine without damaging anything. It sounds like you came up with a pretty workable solution. If I can't figure out how to swap them out, then maybe I'll give your method a try. Thanks for the advice.
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:24 PM
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Try e-mailing the guy at www.savageparts.com. His address in on the site. (He also sells Savage factory barrels there for switch barrel projects!). He's given me advice in the past and knows these rifles. He also might know how to find some more detailed instructions on how to do this. Let me know how it works out. I still might consider switching mine over properly as well.

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Old 02-06-2004, 07:43 PM
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bwana -

I have much the same problem. Dad gave me a Savage 110E (long action, short magazine) in .22-250. That was several thousand rounds ago and I recently replaced it with a Ruger M77 VT. Now I want to restock the Savage and rebarrel it to a different cartridge, and I was concerned that I might need to change magazines if going to a larger diameter cartridge like the .300WSM or .25-284.

After removing the receiver from the stock, I discovered the magazine is staked in place. Worse, it looks like they put the magazine in place and spot weld it to a second piece of sheet metal to hold the front in. That locks it in place mechanically - there is no way I see that it can be easily removed. A call to a gunsmith confirmed my suspicion - the magazine often is destroyed when being removed.

After some considration I gave up on the idea of changing magazines. Instead of a .25-284 or .300WSM, it looks like I'll probably be going for a 257 Improved or maybe .308Win, although I haven't completely ruled out a .243Win or 7mm-08.

Whichever way I go, a Boyds stock is almost certainly going to replace the rather plain stock it has now.

If I could just decide what to do about a barrel. Lilja would be my preference, but an Adams & Bennett is more in my price range...
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Old 02-10-2004, 04:47 AM
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bwana -

I have much the same problem. Dad gave me a Savage 110E (long action, short magazine) in .22-250. That was several thousand rounds ago and I recently replaced it with a Ruger M77 VT. Now I want to restock the Savage and rebarrel it to a different cartridge, and I was concerned that I might need to change magazines if going to a larger diameter cartridge like the .300WSM or .25-284.

After removing the receiver from the stock, I discovered the magazine is staked in place. Worse, it looks like they put the magazine in place and spot weld it to a second piece of sheet metal to hold the front in. That locks it in place mechanically - there is no way I see that it can be easily removed. A call to a gunsmith confirmed my suspicion - the magazine often is destroyed when being removed.

After some considration I gave up on the idea of changing magazines. Instead of a .25-284 or .300WSM, it looks like I'll probably be going for a 257 Improved or maybe .308Win, although I haven't completely ruled out a .243Win or 7mm-08.

Whichever way I go, a Boyds stock is almost certainly going to replace the rather plain stock it has now.

If I could just decide what to do about a barrel. Lilja would be my preference, but an Adams & Bennett is more in my price range...
That's bad news about the magazine. It sounds like restocking this rifle is going to be a serious project. Thanks for the advice.
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