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Old 03-20-2009, 05:08 PM
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i WANT TO LOAD 45LC WITH HODNADY 185 GR XTP AND UNIVERSAL POWDER. iS THIS A POOR CHOICE? iF NOT ANY IDEA ON HOW MUNC POWDER
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:12 PM
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Welcome to the forum. Looks like your "caps lock" key got stuck on that post

How fast do you want them to go? What firearm are you using? Universal is certainly a good product, for appropriate pressure / velocity ranges....

I'll give you the short answer, if the load you want is listed on www.hodgdon.com then it is probably going to work just great.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:03 AM
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I'm an old fogey, been loading the 45 Colt for 35 or so years. Bought a thousand 250 grain Speer hollow points when I started. About that same time I started casting, single cavity 235 grain Lyman.
The cast bullets out shot the jacketed, were cheaper, still have 600 of the Speers.
The 45 Colt was made for cast bullets.

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Old 03-21-2009, 06:42 AM
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I'm also partial to cast bullets for the .45 Colt. I like the 250 gr. RNFP cast with wheelweights and 8.0 to 9.0 gr. Unique powder, the old "classic" combo.
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Old 03-21-2009, 12:21 PM
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I'm also partial to cast bullets for the .45 Colt. I like the 250 gr. RNFP cast with wheelweights and 8.0 to 9.0 gr. Unique powder, the old "classic" combo.
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Why not start a 45 Colt Dinosaur club, for those of us that believe that it's almost unAmerican to shoot anything out of a 45 Colt that is not 250 to 260 grains and powered by Unique.
We can argue amongst ourselves over .452 or .454 diameter.

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Old 03-21-2009, 02:07 PM
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I'll join. I shoot 255 grain SWC .452 with 9.2 grains of Unique. On a couple other threads made mistake and said 9.6 grains of Universal but all I have is Unique and the 1 cc Lee dipper equals 9.2 grains of Unique. Very easy to use. Good all around round.
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:45 AM
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This dinosaur keeps his loads a bit lighter, preferring 8.0 Universal or 7.0 W231 for regular use. Both are easier to measure and cleaner than Unique, even the new Unique. I use the .7 cc dipper.

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Old 03-22-2009, 10:36 AM
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I prefer 250 / 255 grain bullets in my .45s, but I must confess I've switched to 200 grain RNFPs for CAS. Initially it was to save money, but the reduced recoil is kind of nice.

Another confession - I've been shooting and handloading for the .45 Colt for about 15 years and just got my first canister of Unique last year. I've tried a few loads with it and like it a lot. I've switched to it exclusively in my .44 specials.
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Old 03-22-2009, 01:39 PM
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I'll join too, but I prefer Green Dot, Herco or Bullseye....
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Old 03-22-2009, 02:51 PM
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I like universal powder. But I agree with everyone else 250 bullet would be a better choice. The 185XTP was really designed for the 45ACP and needs a taper crimp or you could use the LFC die. I couldn't find any data for the LC with 185XTP. Hodgdon list data for lighter bullets but they are all cast.
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:33 PM
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I must be the reincarnation of the Peanuts character 'Pigpen', since I never noticed the 'dirtiness' of Unique. I'm loading for a handful of S&W model 25s, Colt Anaconda, Ruger Blackhawk and a Winchester 92. Most of the shooting for the Colt and Winchester is loaded with 20 grains of H110 and 300 grain Saecos, but they also get a number of 9 grains of Unique.
The load I've used for decades has been 250 grain Saeco or Lyman SWCs sized to .454, LBT lube, the case expander/powder tube has been polished down to reduce the case body to where it really grips the case, and a real tight crimp. All loads are done on a Dillon, but the dies are Redding.
I'm just as fastidious (sp) as the nest guy. I clean my handguns every thousand rounds even if they don't need it.
During the summer months I'll take a gallon can of Ed's Red Cleaner with me to cool the guns when they get too hot hold, so that may be considered cleaning. I just drop them in the bucket muzzle down, I can fit three in the bucket.

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I wanted to suggest that the official bullet for the .45 Colt Dinosaur Club be either the 265 grain Keith bullet or the 255 grain WFN from Beatooth Bullets.

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Old 03-22-2009, 07:01 PM
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Naw, the RCBS 270 SAA
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Old 03-22-2009, 08:29 PM
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I'm in favor of a 200 grain RNFP, with 8.0 grains of Green Dot, just over 800 FPS and very clean.
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Old 03-23-2009, 10:37 AM
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I'll tell you what. You can get some mad velocities out of 180-185 grain bullets from a 45 Colt. Especially out of a rifle... I never chronied them, but I had a load I shot out of my buddy's 1894 Trapper that (without changing the sights) zeroed at 300+ yards. I estimate the 180 grain bullet at about 2,000 FPS with Unique. I went and bought some 185 grain Hornady XTP's last month for the purpose of working up some high velocity loads for my 20" 92.

I found Unique to be dirty in my Ruger Bisley and the 1894. Reason I ended up with the load I did was to get rid of the Unique because I didn't like it.

I wouldn't suggest doing what I did to anybody though, it was probably not exactly wise... It was the only way to get it to stop slitting brass though...
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Im new here, and new to handloading as well. But I love my 45. Its the biggest reason I started handloading, I cant afford the ammo.LOL Im loading 250 LFN ove 9.2 grains of Universal. Im afraid I may need to back it down some after reading these posts. Worked them up today. The pistol is a Taurus Judge, and seems to handle them pretty well. What pressure range is the 45 Colt compared to a 2.5 inch 410 shotshell? Does anyone know?
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:48 AM
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This is a scientific wild donkey guess. I think the 410 and the factory loaded 45 Colt are about the same pressure.

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Old 03-24-2009, 06:01 AM
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The 410 is loaded to a max of 12,500 PSI, the 45 Colt has a SAAMI max pressure of 14,000 PSI. The 3" 410 is loaded to about 14,000 PSI.
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:21 AM
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10-4, thanks for the info. I thought the 410 would be higher than that.
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I'll join too, but I prefer Green Dot, Herco or Bullseye....
Tom, could you give me your Green Dot powder wt for 250, 255, and 265 casts that you see as most accurate. Thanks
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