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Old 05-02-2010, 05:24 AM
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We all know by now that the 10mm was downloaded to produce the
SW 40 caliber cartridge. Well I now have a 10mm S&W pistol
and I might as well load it to the max SAAMI specs or else I
wasted my money. ( I could have bought a SW 40 if I wanted downloaded
ammo.)
I have been researching all the factory LoadData manuals for the
hottest 10mm Auto loads and way below here is the results of my research.

I am leaning toward mid range size HP bullets of
150gr-165gr for self defense so it looks like I will be
using either Winchester AutoComp or Accurate ArmsAA#9 or
IMR 800-X.

Does anyone have any experience with these and recomendations
as they all produce some pretty impressive performances according
to the tables.
I am interested in bulkiness ( dont want to have to compress
loads, how clean the powder burns, muzzle flash could
be a factor if all other items were equal, cost is always
important, hey and availability might be the most important
criteria.



Accurate Arms manual ( 2010 data ) using no 9 powder---------
155gr AA#9 15.9gr 1414 fps
165gr AA#9 15.0gr 1341 fps
180gr AA#9 13.5gr 1242 fps
180 Speer JHP: AA#9 14.5gr 1290fps 32,600psi ( AA Manual #2)
180 XTP: AA#9 13.5gr 1242fps 34,100 psi ( AA Manual #2 )
200gr AA#9 12.5gr 1170 fps

Hodgdon manual (2010 data) -------------------------
135gr Autocomp 9.5gr 1476fps 34,500 psi
155gr Autocomp 8.9gr 1362fps 35,700 psi
155gr IMR 800-X 9.8gr 1350fps 30,000 psi *NOTE PRESSURE
180gr IMR 800-X 9.7gr 1320fps 34,200psi ( 2004 IMR manual )
180gr Longshot 9.5gr 1287fps 34,800 psi
200gr Longshot 8.2gr 1172fps 35,000 psi
***note Autocomp is a Winchester powder

Accurate Manual (edition 3.2.2) re AA#7
180gr Hornady XTP (JHP) with a max of 10.7 grains AA#7
180gr Ranier plated HP, with a max of 11.0 grains AA#7
190gr Sierra FPJ with a max of 11.2 grains AA#7

Alliant Manual (2010 data)-------------------------
180gr Speer GDHP bullet
180gr Blue Dot 11gr 1295fps
165gr Speer GoldDot Power Pistol 10gr 1314fps

Hornady 7th edition Manual------------------------
Hornady’s 180gr bullets MAX: AA #7 12.0 gr @ 1200 fps
155gr HP XTP MAX: AA#7 14.6gr.

Speer #14 Manual-------- 5” barrel
180gr GDHP or TMJ-FN MAX BlueDot 11.0gr @ 1295 fps.
Strangely, the Speer manual does not list AA No.9
for 180gr bullets, but does for some of its lighter bullets in 10mm.
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Old 05-02-2010, 10:31 AM
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I tossed out my load data, when I sold my Witness. I do remember that I loaded both Noslers 135's, and 155's. My paticular gun REALLY liked Blue Dot. Fantastic accuracy. Also check out Double Tap Ammo, they make REAL Velocity, and REAL 10mm loads.
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:21 PM
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My favorite load for the 10mm is 11 grains of Blue Dot with the 180 grain bullet. I have used this load extensively in bowling pin matches, out of a Glock 20, and a Colt Delta Elite (in the DE, I am using a 25 lb. recoil spring, and a red shok buffer to manage those full power rounds)

It's a very accurate load. At 100 yards, with the Delta Elite, I can usually ring 6 inch diameter steel plates with pretty good consistency.

Personally, I love the 10mm. It is the most powerful handgun cartridge that can be chambered in a 1911 sized handgun. On par with the 41 Magnum, and even more powerful than the 45 ACP

The 45 ACP loaded with a 230 grain bullet at 850 FPS, has a power factor of about 207,000 (Minimum power factor for IDPA shooting is 165,000)

The 10mm, with a 180 grain bullet at 1300 FPS, has a power factor of about 234,000
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:06 AM
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Great For Me

I also admire the 10mm chambering. At this time I only have one,a Glock20. I found and fell in love with the Double Tap brand of ammo and have shot it exclusively for hunting. I use Blazer for practice and found that the same POA brings the same POI for both.

I have put the 200gr WFNGC,DT ammo, thru several of the bigger hogs. This coming season hope to take a couple of deer with it at the closer ranges. Would love to see a small,light weight,simi-auto chambered in the 10mm round. Especially if it would be similar to my Beretta CX4 Storm.

With a little tweaking my G20 has become my favorite hunting pistol if I feel that the situation will require less than my 44mg Desert Eagle. The 15+1 of the G20 is a real comfort factor when in the super thick clumps of river bamboo and you "think" you hear the bigger boar hogs sharpening up them cutters.

I'm really not sure if a reloader could come up with the same vels as Double Tap. They probably could if they had access to the same powder. To me,Double Tap makes a 10mm what it is supposed to be.

Ya'll enjoy them 10's. -----pruhdlr
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Old 05-04-2010, 05:30 AM
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My favorite load for the 10mm is 11 grains of Blue Dot with the 180 grain bullet. I have used this load extensively in bowling pin matches, out of a Glock 20, and a Colt Delta Elite (in the DE, I am using a 25 lb. recoil spring, and a red shok buffer to manage those full power rounds)

It's a very accurate load. At 100 yards, with the Delta Elite, I can usually ring 6 inch diameter steel plates with pretty good consistency.

Personally, I love the 10mm. It is the most powerful handgun cartridge that can be chambered in a 1911 sized handgun. On par with the 41 Magnum, and even more powerful than the 45 ACP

The 45 ACP loaded with a 230 grain bullet at 850 FPS, has a power factor of about 207,000 (Minimum power factor for IDPA shooting is 165,000)

The 10mm, with a 180 grain bullet at 1300 FPS, has a power factor of about 234,000


Have you frogotten about the 45 Super and the 460 Rowland? Both can be chambered in the 1911 platform.

The 45 Super will propell a 230 grain bullet 1100 FPS and the 460 Rowland will propell the sme 230 grain bullet to 1340 FPS and of course there is the 40 Super which will shoot a 165 grain bullet at 1600 FPS



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Old 05-04-2010, 06:02 AM
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I shoot a 10mm caliber and use 165 grain bullets in my model 20 Glock and sub - compact model 29's. The CCW weapons get loaded up with Winchester factory loads in the 175 grn bullet weight.

I suppose in the next month or so, I will have enough empty cases to start reloading for the 10mm. I like to load at least 600 at a time and I am getting very close to that number now. I will be using Hornady XTP jacketed bullets along with some FMJ for target work.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:26 AM
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I know the OP's intent is to load the 10mm to its full potential. But another good thing about it is that you can load 40 S&W power loads and because of the 10mm's greater case capacity the pressure will be lower. This makes it nice for someone who doesn't want the pressures involved with the 40 S&W as practice ammo, yet your practice ammo is equal in power to the shorter round.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:08 PM
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I was told that the Bren Ten was built to handle a 210 grain bullet at 1,200 fps, that is the spec that I load my 10 to. I have a HK P7-10

Jerry
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HK Inna 10 ?

Hmmmmm....didn't know H&K made a pistol chambered in 10mm. -----pruhdlr
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Old 05-04-2010, 06:33 PM
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Hmmmmm....didn't know H&K made a pistol chambered in 10mm. -----pruhdlr

I didn't either. One gun I WOULD like to see H&K come out with is a USP10. Basically a USP in 10mm. I have a full size USP 40, and a 45 Tactical...both very good guns.

But, I'm a big fan of the 10mm, and would love to see it in the HK USP platform.
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:40 AM
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Gentlemen from the tests results I saw on various video's, one surely does not need to use a 200 or even the 180 grain bullet to get enough penetration on an attacker etc. If anything, the heavier weights would seem to cause "over penetration".

I handload 165 grain bullets but have been using the Winchester 175 grain factory bullet weights for both my CCW 10mm pistols. However, I am looking for a good factory hollow point bullet in the 155 or 165 bullet weight. The 165 grain bullet gave very good expansion with plenty of penetration!!! It has been difficult to check out various brands of factory bullets because not many 10mm brands are on the shelf at the local gunstores.

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