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Old 05-31-2012, 04:11 PM
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Well after reading the link about 45 LC S7W 25-5. Auther said 27grs of H110 and 260 gr cast bullet was completely safe in a S&W25-5. So I loaded 24 grs of H110 and a 250 gr cast bullet. PERFECT load. Highly recommend it,next I'll shooting it through a chronny.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:09 AM
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I can't see what benefit touching off a large charge of powder to achieve the same results that a lesser charge of Unique or some other medium pistol powder would do.
I use H110 in a 45 Colt case for use in my Rossi Model 92. I'm launching a 300 grain cast bullet out of a 24 inch barrel and still getting a very bright muzzel flash.

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Old 06-01-2012, 05:48 AM
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Unique will not produce the velocity at safe pressure that H-110/296 will
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:49 AM
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Unique will not produce the velocity at safe pressure that H-110/296 will
You are correct.
I don't like subjecting my S&Ws to the ragged edge of pressure. One thousand feet per second with a 250 grain cast slug will do everything I'd ask of a model 25.
Any 45 Colt hot loads go thru my Ruger Black hawk or my Colt Anaconda.
Or my Rossi.

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Old 06-01-2012, 07:02 AM
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My experience with WW296 and 255gr. bullets in the .45 Colt was getting spectacular fireballs

With that bullet weight, unless you have a LOT of the stuff to use up, a faster powder ought to do what needs to be done. My opinion. I do not run any bullet weights fast in the .45 Colt. If I need more thump on the receiving end, I would go up in bullet weight.

The 275-280gr. range would seem ideal for a Smith while keeping pressures and recoil reasonable. 300s are a good start in my Rugers.
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Old 06-01-2012, 07:34 AM
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ALL GUNS ARE DIFFERENT. My 25-5 has problems with heavy loads and freezes up. Your 25-5 loves the loads that I shoot in my Blackhawk and would ruin my already ailling 25-5. Ain't that strange? So I don't automatically rush into my Reloading Room and cook up everything that somebodyelse says works really great for themselves. But one day while fooling around with H110 I loaded both 44 Mag and 45 Colt using Hornady 300 grain JSP's and 24 grains of powder and the 45 Colt load was going 130 FPS faster than the same load in the 44 Mag. So some really strange things can sometimes happen.
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Old 06-01-2012, 08:45 AM
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You are correct.
I don't like subjecting my S&Ws to the ragged edge of pressure. One thousand feet per second with a 250 grain cast slug will do everything I'd ask of a model 25.
Any 45 Colt hot loads go thru my Ruger Black hawk or my Colt Anaconda.
Or my Rossi.

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H-110/296 will give more velocity than Unique without subject the revolver to the "ragged edge of pressure." A faster powder will reach peak while producing less velocity
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Old 06-01-2012, 09:57 AM
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Well after reading the link about 45 LC S7W 25-5. Auther said 27grs of H110 and 260 gr cast bullet was completely safe in a S&W25-5. So I loaded 24 grs of H110 and a 250 gr cast bullet. PERFECT load. Highly recommend it,next I'll shooting it through a chronny.
I suppose you did check reloading manuals to verify that load. A quick check trhough mine shows it is over max recommended for Ruger, FA and T/C. That would be enough to warn me off on using it in a Smith.

I would follow the advice that some of the other posted here.

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Old 06-01-2012, 10:55 AM
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.45 Colt reloading data is all over the map. My experience with it suggests that with a slow lot, that particular load *may* be OK. Emphasis on "may." With some lots, it may not.

However, the larger problem is that the stuff just doesn't burn well till you get a fairly heavy-for-caliber bullet in front of it. The load will probably be somewhat temperamental with large swings in environmental conditions. What works great on a sunny summer day may not be so reliable in the dead of winter.

John is correct that it will surely give lower pressures at the same velocities as compared to faster powders - but that is "if" it burns consistently well. I think that it is likely to give problems in that regard.
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Old 06-01-2012, 12:30 PM
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Longshot, Blue Dot, HS-6, Accurate No. 7 . . . these medium slow powders are better for light to medium bullets (200-265 grs) in 45 Colt, or even 44 magnum for that matter. I use Accurate 4100 with 315 gr bullets in my Ruger Bisley Blackhawk, and it's great.

The 325 and up bullets are where H110/W296 shines, but even there, it may have been eclipsed by L'il Gun and MP-300, both of which give as good velocity and pressure with less sensitivity to temperature and loading density.
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I've been using H110 in my Rugers, and in Smiths since I found the powder with great results.
About 20 grains is all it takes to get great results from 300 grain BTB in the montain gun.

No I do NOT make it a steady diet for the pistol, but it's my bear/dangerous woods load.

In the Blackhawk, a 4.5" version, I find i never have to go above 22 grains to get fine gropus, but more important, to keep it controlable.....

For more moderate loads, I have pet loads using Hodg. Universal Clays, which I have foud to be extremely accurate. I've posted pics here before of my one ragged hole group using Univ. clays and Marshall's 265 keith.
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:48 AM
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Thumbs up Under 32,000 PSI

Well I read that article by John Limbaug . He said his load of 27grs of H110 was under 32,000 PSI ( which he says is max for S&W25-5 ) So I'm loading 24grs of H110 behind a 250 gr cast. Oh that loads kicks hard but it should be well under 32,000 PSI.
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Old 06-04-2012, 09:41 AM
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For Lead bullets of 250-255g I use Blue dot to get around 1000Ft/sec.

For Jacketed bullets for 250g I use H110.

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Old 06-06-2012, 05:32 PM
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In my .45 Colt Rugers I use Bluedot with 250 grain bullets and H-110 with 300 grain hard cast bullets. Get good velocities that aren't max and good accuracy and the 300 penetrate well and that's all I ask.
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