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Old 03-31-2004, 07:50 AM
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Can anybody tell me if there is a major difference between the .480 and the .454- recoil, stopping power, accuracy, etc. I will be using it as a pack weapon for wilderness fishing trips.

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Old 03-31-2004, 09:20 AM
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Ok before I start, they are both great carts, The 480 is on the new side, a little more poop than a 44mag in some circumstances, but the casulls pressures far exceed the 480's
Kinda like apples and pairs, the recoil of a 454 Casull is equal to a 300 mag rifle, almost twice the power of the 44 mag, now the 480 falls inbetween I think, less recoil, makes it easier not to flinch and be able to control your shots, not saying you can't using a 454 Casull, but believe me it takes practice and having a good solid hold, again just some people can not harness the 454 casull with any accuracy due to its heavy recoil, So in tern I think thats one of the reasons the 480 was developed, The only draw back is load data for the 480 is still limited to a few types of bullets, where the casulls been around for a long time at least 45 years so there is a good amount of bullets types and powders that can be used for reloading, I'm sure over time more bullet test and development will happen for the 480. So bottom line I think in a hunting situation that the 454 Casull is more for a seasoned heavy recoiling big bore shooter, the 480 is good for someone that needs a little more than the 44 mag or just something different that is on the same level as the 44 mag. I see many 454 Casull used back in the gun cases for resale, this tells me most people try them and to find out its more then they was barging for personally I like my 454 Casull, but it does take some practice to control that beast, A great big game revolver, just my thoughts. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.
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Old 03-31-2004, 05:02 PM
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Ordered the .480

Thanks Rambo,

I think the .454 casull is more than I need, anyway a 400 grain bullet at 1300 fps (the .480) is going to take care of anything I meet. I'm going to pack into some Calif wilderness areas and it's possible to meet a hungry blackie.
That .480 should work just fine. I ordered a Taurus Raging Bull .480, 5 shot, 61/2'' barrel, stainless, $470.00. It was $80.oo cheaper than the .454. Should be fun.

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Old 03-31-2004, 05:13 PM
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They're both exceptionally powerful. Keep the front sight out of your forehead...
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Old 04-01-2004, 04:32 AM
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Mike I have heard the hammer spur finds its place once in a while Don't hold too loose or you will regret it, need a good hold on those wheelguns. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.
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Old 04-02-2004, 01:54 PM
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If you can, shoot both at a range, before you buy. I own and shoot the Ruger 480. It is less felt recoil than the 454. The 480 comes back toward you on a linear level. The 454 comes up and back at you. It is VERY Easy to get popped in the forehead, if you don't have a good hold on the 454. Much of what everyone else has said is right-on. I would try to rent and shoot both a couple of times first. Then buy what you can shoot the best and be accurate. No gun, however big, is adequate if you can't shoot it accurately when your life depends on it. JMO. It also gets very tiring wearing either of them in a Bandelero holster all day. They do get heavier by the hour.
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Old 04-02-2004, 02:52 PM
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I was in the same spot and I chose the .454 Casull because of the versatility. I can load or buy any thing from mild .45LC to wild .454. JMO.
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I was in the same spot and I chose the .454 Casull because of the versatility. I can load or buy any thing from mild .45LC to wild .454. JMO.
It is all well and good to shoot the light loads in the Casull chamber, but you'd better be sure that it is thoroughly cleaned before shooting the Casull loads in it. Lead and powder buildup can cause serious pressure problems. I won't shoot 38spcl in a 357 mag for this reason. There's an old saying; penny wise and pound foolish-------------------!
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:30 PM
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I own the 454 in both 6.5 and 2.5 inch barrels. YES IN DEED, they are not for the timid, or someone not looking for alot of recoil. BUT I will add (they are managable) also, once you "pop off a few" you,ll be surprised at your slowly reducing fear level.
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Hey guys there is a new guy on the block. The 460. NICE!!!Just what the doc ordered.
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Can anybody tell me if there is a major difference between the .480 and the .454- recoil, stopping power, accuracy, etc. I will be using it as a pack weapon for wilderness fishing trips.

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If you are going to hunt LArge game mature Buffalo, Moos, etc a 410 grain bullet from a 480 is higher on the food chain than any 45 cal revolver IMHO and experience
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Old 04-14-2010, 12:30 PM
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Where are you going backpacking??? That is a lot of fire power. In my area a 44 Mag will pretty much cover most critters, I am not sure if any thing will stop a really upset wild boar or a sow.

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Well I have shot my buddies .454 on two different outtings at the gunclub! It is indeed a handful for any shooter in my humble opinion and not something I would carry inorder to ward off a grizzly simply put, it just kicks to much and my hand will not take it anymore.

My .44 magnum on the other hand I can fire 4 or 5 times without pain hamppering my shooting ability on the target. It is all I really want with 300 grain bullets.

I picked up a .460 Smith & Wesson just thinking I could handle it with light loads and something to converse about at the gunclub too. However, it is also to much pistol for me with heavy loads do to my arthritis. I myself am looking for a .480 Ruger also, I would think it would be better suited for things on the trail and more tolerable to the shooter.
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If you have a Ruger or Taurus the .454 is quite a bit more versatile since you can also shoot .45 Colt in it. You cannot, or should not, shoot .45 Colt in a Freedom Arms .454. See their warnings on their site for explanation regarding the dangers of not removing fouling left by the shorter .45 Colt case and then shooting the longer .454 in their extra tight chambers. Still, even with the FA you can download the .454 case to equal the .45 Colt performance. And in the FA you can load up to loads that are near insane. My pet load, for FA ONLY revolvers, is a 355 gr. bullet and it is leaving 1790 fps. Now THAT gets your attention. The .480 is a lot less punishing than full power .454 loads even in the Ruger and Taurus revolvers but still more than powerful enough for most game. The down side of the .480 is the round is not exactly burning up the market. Ruger no longer lists it and who knows how long it is going to be around. The .454 is decades old, has been chambered in a lot more pistols, and even if the round were to dry up you could still shoot 45 Colt in it and the .45 Colt is not going anywhere.
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:50 PM
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Totally agree with bigbore. My vote is for the 454. Its been around much longer, it can shoot 45colt, and has alot more options in bullet choice and factory loads. The 454 will anchor anything on gods green earth! I have one in a taurus raging bull and love it. Very accurate.
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Good grief you guys he's going backpacking in California not Alaska. He ain't going to run into ANYTHING there that can't be handled easily with a 44 mag, probably a 357mag. If you want to buy a handcannon just to have one thats cool, but if you're truly looking for animal protection, two or four legged, get something you can shoot accuratly, a hit from a 22lr is better than a miss from a 500mag. It takes a LOT of practice to handle the really big bores with more than one shot accuracy.
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Good grief you guys he's going backpacking in California not Alaska. He ain't going to run into ANYTHING there that can't be handled easily with a 44 mag, probably a 357mag. If you want to buy a handcannon just to have one thats cool, but if you're truly looking for animal protection, two or four legged, get something you can shoot accuratly, a hit from a 22lr is better than a miss from a 500mag. It takes a LOT of practice to handle the really big bores with more than one shot accuracy.
+1 to what Simcoe said!

Having packed into 3 of California's wilderness areas, and hunted national forest land there for 15+ years, I can tell you that your odds of seeing a black bear or mountain lion are incredibly slim. When I saw them, it was a source of wonder, not something I felt a need to be armed to the teeth over. (<---teeth!)

Anyway, packing the extra weight of a 454 over a 357Mag, or even a 40S&W semi-auto, doesn't make any sense, to me. When you're going UP mountains, carrying a pack with everything you need for 2, 3 or more days, every ounce matters. If you want to debate the merits of the 454, 480 or 460 (which is what this thread turned into), I'm fine with that, but the OP should pack a gun that is effective at stopping the only truly dangerous predator he's likely to come across...the two-legged type. To that end, a smaller 9mm, 38sp or even 380 is plenty and will be much appreciated toward the end of a long hike.
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These are always interesting theards. Espically since the OP picked up a .480 Taurus 6 years ago. For hiking in California a Model 19 or 66 4" would be the ticket.

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Another vote for the 454, you can shoot 44 mag and 44 spcl in it and the 454 will probably be more than you want for a long days shooting but its nice to have the option.

The .480 is to the 475 Linebaugh what the 44 spcl is to the 44 mag. Same bullet but hand and shooter friendlier. There it stops being friendly when you look at ammo prices. If you are carrying it for SD than you want to be good with it and it takes more than 12 rounds down range to become good with the boomers.

Well not so much fun anymore, old mans disease, arthritis in the wrists, is making the big boomers less fun than it used to be. The price you pay for becoming a dinosaur.

Shooting the .480 is as bad as shooting my 10 gauge with store bought ammo. Fun but ouch in the wallet. To tell the truth that is my biggest reason for not swinging towards the .480.
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These are always interesting theards. Espically since the OP picked up a .480 Taurus 6 years ago. For hiking in California a Model 19 or 66 4" would be the ticket.

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LOL, guess a fella oughta look at the date of these posts before answering huh??? wonder if that 480 got him out alive???
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