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Old 08-19-2004, 07:40 AM
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Question How strong is the Taurus Raging Bull?


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I was just curious as to the strength of the Taurus Raging Bull as compared to the S&W 29/629, Ruger Super Red Hawk, and Super Black Hawk in 44 mag? Mainly I would like to know if the Taurus Raging Bull could handle the hottest reloads with 300+ grain bullets? For that matter, I guess the question applies equally well to the S&W 29/629 and Ruger Super Red Hawk, as I know the Super Black Hawk is strong enough. Any info that you guy's can pass along would be very helpful. Thanks.
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Old 08-21-2004, 11:54 AM
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My experience with the Raging Bull is limited to a 454 Casull that is several years old. After quite a bit of shooting some pretty heavy loads of H110 under a 340gr hardcast it still locks up tighter than my brand new Ruger Blackhawk .45 colt.

My impression is the double lockup system helps a lot. Also it's a 5 shooter so there a lot of beef between the chambers, where I think the 44 RB is a 6 shooter, but the 44 has lower pressures than the 454.

The challenge with big bore revolvers is usually that they can "shoot loose" over time and I haven't seen that at all with my .454 Taurus RB.

The workmanship on my old Bull is very good, again better than my new Ruger and very similar to my older Rugers. But I don't know about current Taurus workmanship. I would want to look one over before putting down my cash.

FYI- I really like the ports. They seem to tame the big gun quite a bit.

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Old 08-22-2004, 04:43 PM
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The Taurus is a very rugged handgun. I have several including a 454 Casull, 480 Ruger, 44Mag and a 44 Special in Titanium. Taurus was smart by going with a 5 round cylinder. This allows for thicker walls and when the ruger casulls were having problems with stuck cases some of that can be traced back to the thinner walls.
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Old 08-23-2004, 12:55 PM
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Thanks guys for the info. I really like the look of the Taurus Raging Bull but didn't know about the strength and if it could handle hot hand loads becuase in most reloading manuals you will see a seperate loading section for Rugers and TC Contenders. Eric, do the ports make the gun much louder? And how much does it help with the recoil? I have never fired a 454 Casull in a pistol, just a lever action rifle and it really thumped! If the ports brought the recoil in the pistol down to any where near what a 44 mag is, then I might go ahead and buy the 454. Any info will help my decission. Thanks.
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Old 08-28-2004, 08:57 AM
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Hey Brian, I completely agree w/ ERIC G. I have a Taurus RB 6" in 454 CASULL. What I don't hear discussed very much is the effectiveness of the excellent ( i think that Taurus calls it) EXPANSION CHAMBER. Otherwise known as a muzzlebrake. When i bought the gun i made sure that i got a Past Shooting Glove to help tame the recoil of the mighty 454. After about 5 shots i took it off and don't even think about using it anymore. I've shot the Freedom Arms .454's and the Taurus is much,much,lighter in the recoil. NOW--- it is loud and you feel the muzzle blast,but-----thats what i love about it. FYI,i shoot hardcast 265,335,and360grainers that are FULL POWER++ and no timing,indexing,or lock up problems. Don't shoot them WIMPY farty four's. Shoot them BIG BOYS. ( .454 CASULL'S )---- GOOD SHOOTIN'---pruhdlr
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Old 08-28-2004, 09:05 AM
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Just given' it some more though. A full power 44mag. 300gr load out of my unported Ruger Super Blackhawk has more precieved recoil than my Taurus RB .454 Casull. Plus the SB aint near as fun cuz you can't feel the blast on your face.---- HAVE FUN--ALWAYS-----pruhdlr
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Old 08-28-2004, 07:51 PM
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pruhdlr, thanks for the info, but I couldn't find a Raging Bull in town, so I bought a Ruger Super RedHawk 454. I'm sure I will buy a Raging Bull at some point though, maybe a 44 mag who knows.
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Old 08-29-2004, 10:26 AM
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You got yourself a great weapon with the Ruger------BUT---- go ahead and start looking up the phone number for MAGNAPORT right now. ---- GOOD SHOOTIN'---pruhdlr
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Hi, I own(2) 454,s. One in a 6.5 inch and another in (if you can believe it) a 2.5 inch barrel. No doubt about it, they are monsters to shoot- but if you hang on tight, you,ll be just fine. Mine are taurus,s so they are both ported. I dont think I would have purchased these types of calibers without porting. Yes, they may be louder, but isnt that why we are supposed to wear hearing protection?

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Old 03-16-2010, 05:57 PM
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Hi, I own(2) 454,s. One in a 6.5 inch and another in (if you can believe it) a 2.5 inch barrel. No doubt about it, they are monsters to shoot- but if you hang on tight, you,ll be just fine. Mine are taurus,s so they are both ported. I dont think I would have purchased these types of calibers without porting. Yes, they may be louder, but isnt that why we are supposed to wear hearing protection?

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Old 03-16-2010, 06:31 PM
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If you are looking for a 44 mag the Ruger Redhawk (not Super) has a longer cylinder than any other factory gun. If you have bullets with 2 crimping grooves you can load it for more velocity without exceeding pressure limits. Comped barrels on handguns will do more ear damage than non comped-----so hearing protection is always a must. I personally hate getting smacked in the face with muzzle blast, I'll deal with the recoil any day! I only own 1 Taurus, but have shot several. Good guns but they have a long way to go to ever match Ruger in quality , accuracy and especially customer service!
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:04 AM
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I have been having issues with Taurus lately. I first bought a M66 357 Mag and got it with a whole ton of problems. The gun shop took it back and I got a 444SS8 instead. Got it and for some reason when I fully load it with winchester 240 grain 44 mags, or blazer (which I know are cheap) 240 grain 44 mags after so many shots the cylinder will break loose and be free spinning. It is still locked up into place but I have to spin the cylinder by hand until it locks in to place because it wont let me cock the hammer back. Then after shooting them the casings stick in the cylinder and dont want to come out. Remingtons 180 grain 44 mag rounds seem to work fine but I shouldnt be stuck shooting only one kind of ammo through it because it is a brand new gun!
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Old 06-15-2010, 12:46 PM
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i bought a taurus tracker and have had problems my dad has the judge horrible gun i will not buy taurus anymore i will now stick to ruger or s&w revolvers
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:18 AM
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i bought a taurus tracker and have had problems my dad has the judge horrible gun i will not buy taurus anymore i will now stick to ruger or s&w revolvers
I too am scepticle of Taurus' quality control. A colleague of mine just bought a snub-nose .22 LR Taurus revolver and it has a 17.5-lb trigger on it. He bought it for his wife and she can't cykcle it double action.
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Old 05-03-2011, 10:37 AM
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Taurus has a LIFETIME warranty no matter where or who you bought it from....Ruger doe

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If you are looking for a 44 mag the Ruger Redhawk (not Super) has a longer cylinder than any other factory gun. If you have bullets with 2 crimping grooves you can load it for more velocity without exceeding pressure limits. Comped barrels on handguns will do more ear damage than non comped-----so hearing protection is always a must. I personally hate getting smacked in the face with muzzle blast, I'll deal with the recoil any day! I only own 1 Taurus, but have shot several. Good guns but they have a long way to go to ever match Ruger in quality , accuracy and especially customer service!
Taurus has LIFETIME warranty....Ruger does not no matter where or from whom you bought it from
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Old 05-04-2011, 05:05 AM
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But that's not enough incentive for me to trade my Rugers in for Taurus'!
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Old 05-04-2011, 06:53 AM
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Taurus has LIFETIME warranty....Ruger does not no matter where or from whom you bought it from
But if you are to believe the stories on the internet, the opposite is more true.
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:15 PM
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First off I will say that ruger will take care of their guns, at least thats been my experience. I owned a raging bull in 454 and it was a fine gun. Wouldnt hesitate to buy another. I still think the rugers are better made but you wouldnt be doing wrong getting either one. I do have to disagree with something I just read. To me there is no comparison between the 44 mag recoil and the 454. I have a 4 5/8 barrel 44 SBH that I feed 300 gn hardcast over 21 grains of h110. It is much more controllable and easier on my hand than the 454 loads. I also own a 500 so I'm definetly not recoil shy. There is just something about that 454 round that hands out an azzkickin.
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Old 05-05-2011, 01:17 AM
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Thumbs up 454bull

Great gun. only problem Was horonday custom ammo, Hard to eject after all five rounds fired. Lots of groundhogs fell to the bull out to 50yds. 2 yotes at 165 an 205 messured yds.
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