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Old 03-02-2008, 11:49 AM
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What guns, if any are chambered w/the new round?

Is there a possibility of re-chambering a .32 mag to the new one?
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:38 PM
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Haven't seen that one yet. Wonder if the .32 H&R will work in a .327? Will the Single Six be available in .327?
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So far I have only seen the Ruger SP101 in this chambering, and yes the .32 Mag. and the .32 S&W will fire in it. I wasn't able to shoot it, but am considdering it for the wife. I think with a bobbed hammer, it will make a fine CCW. I like the idea of one more round than the J-60 as well.
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Old 03-03-2008, 07:45 PM
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last I heard or saw it was going to be in the SP101 and the 32HR would work
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:15 AM
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According to Gunblast, Freedom Arms is making one, too.

I hope Smith and Taurus see the potential of this cartridge. They both make/made a snubby in .32 H&R, so it wouldn't be a massive undertaking for them.

I'd like to see someone make a 6" revolver in this chambering. Taurus makes a 7-shot .357 Magnum that's pretty handy. I wonder if they could get an 8th round in that cylinder if it was .327 Fed Mag.

As for rechambering an existing gun, remember the .327 Fed Mag is longer than the .32 H&R Mag. So, unless you can find a .32 H&R that has an excessively long cylinder, you're talking about a lot more than a cylinder swap.
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I haven't seen the specs yet, but I'm ASSUMING that it is shorter than a .357...so, for a gun that is chambered in .32 and .357, like say a Blackhawk, or a SP101, that is already chambered in .32 Mag, and uses the longer (.357) cylinder, the length would already be there.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:20 AM
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I haven't seen the specs yet, but I'm ASSUMING that it is shorter than a .357...so, for a gun that is chambered in .32 and .357, like say a Blackhawk, or a SP101, that is already chambered in .32 Mag, and uses the longer (.357) cylinder, the length would already be there.
Do they use the same frames for, say, a .357 Magnum and a .38 Special? I'm not so certain they do. I'm certainly not the biggest expert on guns in the world, but I think they try to keep the distance the bullet has to travel before it gets to the barrel as low as they possibly can.
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Old 03-07-2008, 01:32 AM
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Guns chambered for the .327 can fire all .32 caliber pistol rounds. At least that what they say in the latest "guns and ammo". You should really pick up this months issue. It features the .327 Federal. I'm not too sure about this round, as they say that it's supposed to rival the .357 ballistics (it doesn't) and makes about the same chamber pressure as the .357, so that means recoil is close to the .357 . . . . . . . . so my question is why buy a "new" .327 instead of the venerable .357 Mag that is a proven one shot stopper on men and animals up to black bear size? Elmer Keith killed Grizzlies with 'em. I just don't see the benefits of the .327.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:00 AM
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I am with Good Steward on this one. I would rather pick up a SP 101 and load it with the hottest 38SPL, 38SPL+P, 357 low recoil, or 357 full power load I could stand. No way the 327 can match that versatility.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:46 AM
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The .327 Fed is the answer to a question that was never asked. A "problem" that didn't need to be sloved.

I own a couple of .32 H&R Mags. They are fine weapons. Very reloadable,very accurate,low recoil,etc.,etc. One is used by the wife for backup while hog hunting or in general woods walking. This,loaded with 115gr hardcast Beartooth bullets. (these bullets penetrate !)

As stated above,you want/need more,.38 Special and upward. You want need less.......well?.......I would never want less.

Some would argue that a light loaded .38 Special would be better than a .32 Mag. That could very well be. Everyone needs to shoot the .32 Mag first, then decide what would be best for your application.

It's very hard for me to believe that the new Federal round will come anywhere close to the .357 mag. I actually feel that even handloaded it will never come close to the med/hot .38 Specials.

As stated,it is a solution to a problem that was never there. -----pruhdlr
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:33 AM
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From what I hear (that MIGHT be a pun), the 327 is an absolute ear-splitter. The 32 H&R is pretty intense at loads levels that hit almost 38+P levels, and I'd bet that the 327 at even higher pressures would indeed serve double duty as a paint stripper.

Not for me, thanks.
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:51 AM
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Guns chambered for the .327 can fire all .32 caliber pistol rounds. At least that what they say in the latest "guns and ammo". You should really pick up this months issue. It features the .327 Federal. I'm not too sure about this round, as they say that it's supposed to rival the .357 ballistics (it doesn't) and makes about the same chamber pressure as the .357, so that means recoil is close to the .357 . . . . . . . . so my question is why buy a "new" .327 instead of the venerable .357 Mag that is a proven one shot stopper on men and animals up to black bear size? Elmer Keith killed Grizzlies with 'em. I just don't see the benefits of the .327.
One extra round in a snubbie, alledgedly without sacrificing power = Benefit.
Higher velocities mean it'll have less drop over the same distance = Benefit.
Alledgedly lower recoil with the same muzzle energy = Benefit.

I'd heard it was able to rival the .357 Magnum's muzzle energy, which is easy to do if you speed up the bullet.

If we were going to stick with cartridges that "do that already" there would only be two rifle cartridges: .45-70 and .30-30

Why not let the cartridge come out, let people tinker with it, and see what it does in practice before considering it useless when all we have are theories at this point?
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Old 03-07-2008, 08:17 AM
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The key word there is "Allegedly". I do not have any hands on experience with the cartridge. I have read the ballistics report in "Guns and Ammo", one of the few gun rags that are actually respectable, and it's ballistics do not compare with the factory .357's. So, while you may have one extra round in the snubbie, what is the benefit of it? I would rather be able to put whatever I was shooting down with one round, than to have to empty the whole cylinder into it.

The facts that I see are that the .327 uses a smaller projectile, speeds it up to nearly .357 velocities, and the result of that is a chamber pressure and recoil that is close to a .357.

So from the facts I saw, I had an opinion that if I wanted a gun that rivals the .357, why wouldn't I buy a .357? It hurls a bigger hunk of lead faster and with more muzzle energy with about the same chamber pressure and recoil as a smaller gun with a smaller projectile.

So if it's useless or not depends on the people buying it. Me? I'll stick with the gun that it was modeled after.
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:42 AM
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The key word there is "Allegedly". I do not have any hands on experience with the cartridge. I have read the ballistics report in "Guns and Ammo", one of the few gun rags that are actually respectable, and it's ballistics do not compare with the factory .357's. So, while you may have one extra round in the snubbie, what is the benefit of it? I would rather be able to put whatever I was shooting down with one round, than to have to empty the whole cylinder into it.

The facts that I see are that the .327 uses a smaller projectile, speeds it up to nearly .357 velocities, and the result of that is a chamber pressure and recoil that is close to a .357.

So from the facts I saw, I had an opinion that if I wanted a gun that rivals the .357, why wouldn't I buy a .357? It hurls a bigger hunk of lead faster and with more muzzle energy with about the same chamber pressure and recoil as a smaller gun with a smaller projectile.

So if it's useless or not depends on the people buying it. Me? I'll stick with the gun that it was modeled after.
No, you see "early-run engineering samples" remarked upon by some guy you don't know in a magazine designed to sell advertising. Facts and hearsay are not necessarily the same thing.

The article also said it produced "much less recoil than a .357"

I seriously doubt that .327 Fed Mag would require a whole cylinder to do what a single round of .357 Mag can do. It's not like .357 Magnum is this magical round that blows people in half if it passes within a half mile of them. At the end of the day, they're both things that fling a little piece of metal really really fast. .357 magnum just contains slightly wider and a bit heavier pieces of metal to be flung.
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I think I posted this in another thread about this cartridge but I'll say it again.

I'm ambivalant about it as a handgun cartridge as much as I like the .32 S&W long.

I believe it would be an excellent rifle cartridge. I guess it would come close the 32-20 ballistics with the advantages of the straight case.
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Old 03-08-2008, 07:50 AM
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I'm ambivalant about it as a handgun cartridge as much as I like the .32 S&W long.
Yeah, I'm there.

But, I find that people who spend rainy days and evenings on gun and bow forums need very little excuse to justify a new gun or caliber.

I would love to see one on a Single Six frame, with a 3.5" barrel. bird head grip, and adjustable sights. Even better would be a 5 shot SS in such a configuration for .38+P. or maybe................

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Old 03-08-2008, 08:41 AM
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I think I posted this in another thread about this cartridge but I'll say it again.

I'm ambivalant about it as a handgun cartridge as much as I like the .32 S&W long.

I believe it would be an excellent rifle cartridge. I guess it would come close the 32-20 ballistics with the advantages of the straight case.
Yeah, I'm really hopeful someone will make a rifle that fires it.
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From Bowen Classic Arms www.bowenclassicarms.com .327 FEDERAL MAGNUM CARTRIDGE

Those of us who are serious small-bore, small-game revolver enthusiasts have clamored for years for the moral equivalent of the great old .32-20 but in a more modern, tougher, available package. The cartridge fairies have been listening and have come through in grand style. The .327 Federal Magnum will perform every bit as well as hand-loaded high-pressure, high-performance .32-20 loadings. Better still, the .327 is nothing more than a stretched .32 H&R Magnum which means it is quite small in diameter and can be built in 6-shot guns on relatively small frames, places the longer, larger .32-20 just wouldn't fit easily (or cheaply).

For reasons known only to the fine folks at Sturm, Ruger & Company, the .327 has ended up in their small double-action SP-101 rather than in the Single-Six. While the SP-101 is a hardy little double-action gun, many of us really, really wanted to see the gun in a small single action. The .327 will work fine in a slightly longer cylinder body section with virtually no other modifications. The walls and webs of the factory .32 H&R cylinder are thicker than many .357 Magnums so there is no reason to go to a more costly and complicated 5-shot part.

Bowen Classic Arms is adding the chambering to our line-up and will offer Single-Six and medium-frame Blackhawk and Flat Top single-action revolvers in this great little cartridge. We'll have a semi drop-in cylinder available under the RS06 catalog number for the .32 H&R Single-Six model that will utilize the original barrel suitably modified for the long-body cylinder. The receiver will be properly marked as to caliber and then re-blued. We'll also offer a more sophisticated version similar to our 'Long Hunter' package per catalog number RS07 which will feature a line-bored cylinder, custom barrel and the usual trimmings. We'll also note the availability of 6-shot line-bored conversions with factory-style cylinders in conventional calibers in all of the New Model size receivers.

We're hoping to have our initial run of cylinder blanks available this summer. As an aside, these same blanks will enable us to offer tight-chamber .22 rim fires. .22 and .25 caliber wildcats based on the .327 are contemplated, as well. We've done a few Smith & Wesson K-frame guns in .327 which have proven wonderful shooters. Unfortunately, the better cylinders for re-chambering are the scarce older K22 parts. As the supply is fading fast, we're working to produce a long-body K-frame S&W cylinder which we can utilize not only for the .327 but also the .32-20, .218 Bee, .25-20 and .256. For M53 enthusiasts, we will be able to fashion an auxiliary .22 LR cylinder. As long as we can get our paws on K22 barrels, which should be in S&W part bins for a while now, we'll be able to produce the lovely K-frame M14s and M15 in a variety of great small-game and plinking rounds, including the .327

It is not often that we have a new revolver cartridge to get fired up about but the .327 Magnum is the most important mainstream cartridge offering since the .44 Magnum for serious revolver nuts.


I have a Ruger Buckeye Special Blackhawk with a 32/20 and 32 H&R mag cylinders.I am having the H&R cylinder rechambered for the 327 Fed.I'll let ya know how it shoots when I get it back and have time for some load developement
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