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Old 06-15-2010, 07:57 PM
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I'm looking to get one eventually, but I'm confused how to tell an Italian made Beretta and an American made Beretta. I'm wanting an Italian made model. Any ideas?
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:15 AM
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Isn't it actually marked on the gun?
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:37 AM
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Would it change your mind knowing that Beretta had to build a new, state-of-the-art plant here when the Army chose it as the replacement for the 1911? Not a "put down" in any way to Beretta Italy but it would make a difference to me knowing that my pistol was made on the most modern machinery available. Just my dos centavos, YMMV.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:14 AM
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Mine is a standard 92-FS, not an Inox. If it is a "Made In Italy" Beretta, it will be so marked on the case. Bill T.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:18 AM
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Would it change your mind knowing that Beretta had to build a new, state-of-the-art plant here when the Army chose it as the replacement for the 1911? Not a "put down" in any way to Beretta Italy but it would make a difference to me knowing that my pistol was made on the most modern machinery available. Just my dos centavos, YMMV.
It was part of the original contract for the M-9 Pistol, that Beretta would manufacture it here. That is the reason for the Accokeek, Maryland plant. Beretta had been planning to build a facility here, the contract for the M-9 Pistol just broadened it a little. Unlike Glocks that are just assembled here, the Beretta M-9 is completely constructed in Accokeek, start to finish. Bill T.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:17 PM
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Buy American whenever you can keep our gun industry alive. I had an American made 92FS BATS for about 8 years until a burglar made off with it last month. Loved that gun. worked like a charm, so accurate it was scary. nothing against Beretta Italy they make some really pretty stuff over there but I can't see an advantage to buying an Italiano 92 unless it is nostalgic to you in some way.
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:29 PM
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This whole "Buy American" theme has beaten itself to death, and is really quite meaningless in the global economy we now live in. What is buying American anyway? If I buy a Honda assembled in Marysville, Ohio, or a Ford F-150 assembled in Mexico? Honda is based in Japan, Ford here.

It's much the same with guns. Beretta is an Italian based company. That is where all of their profits all turn up. You'll keep a machinist working in Accokeek, Maryland making Beretta's the same if you buy an SO-5 shotgun made in Gardone V.T., or a 92-FS made in Accokeek. It all comes out in the same load of wash. Bottom line, you help the Italians more than the Americans if you buy a Beretta. Any Beretta. I'm not saying that's bad. It's just the direction the money flows. Bill T.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:27 AM
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An excellent point. The only way to buy "American" would be to only purchase from "Mom and Pop." Many companies started here and are headquartered here... but the majority of stockholders are foreign individuals and interests. Buy what you want from whomever you want.
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Iím immeasurably proud of being a natural born American. Having said that, I dearly love the pre 64 Winnies, my Leupold scopes, my S&Ws and my old vehicles. Union labor drove many domestic manufacturers overseas, pure and simple. In the near future, I intend to buy a Browning BLR takedown in 300 WM and scope it with a BDC (turret) scope Ė and I donít care where it comes from as long as it works. Iím sure the Italian made 92s and the ffice:smarttags" />lace w:st="on">USlace> made ones are equal in quality Ė Iíve handled and shot both. My 2 cents is that political correctness caused the lace w:st="on">USlace> to go to the 9mm Ė although I believe the 9 to be OK, the .45 ACP is still and always will be better.
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It wasn't political correctness, but rather NATO that caused the switch to 9 MM. That, and the fact it is a much easier cartridge to control than the .45 ACP. Especially in the full sized, larger frame handguns like the Beretta M-9. I never got into shooting the 9 MM until this past year. I now own and shoot several, including a Rock River Arms LAR-9, 9 MM AR-15 Carbine.

The 9 MM cartridge has seen a lot of improvement in recent years, as many calibers have in the way of much more dependable expanding ammunition. This has really helped it's performance as a self defense round. Ammo cost is always a concern, and now, with the recent ammunition price hikes, 9 MM Ball runs around half that of .45 ACP.

The .45 ACP still packs more authority, but has it's been said, it's better to hit with a 9 MM, than miss with a .45. Bill T.
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Yes it is ture the the profits go home to Itlay for an american made 92 but can you quantify how much is profit? Most light industry profits about 3-8% So yeah a small part of the price of that American made gun went into a company controlled in Italy. On the otherhand I'd rather have those dollars from the high cost of producing the gun go towards feeding the families of Americna Machinists that work on products I buy. Besides that direct benefit to American workers and the folks; moms and pops, that they buy their soda pop from it has the added benefit of not increasing the US trade deficit and does not contribute near as much to the decline of the US dallar. We all benefit from that. Which is why I buy American Cars and when I can I buy American guns.
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Yes it is ture the the profits go home to Itlay for an american made 92 but can you quantify how much is profit? Most light industry profits about 3-8% So yeah a small part of the price of that American made gun went into a company controlled in Italy. On the otherhand I'd rather have those dollars from the high cost of producing the gun go towards feeding the families of Americna Machinists that work on products I buy. Besides that direct benefit to American workers and the folks; moms and pops, that they buy their soda pop from it has the added benefit of not increasing the US trade deficit and does not contribute near as much to the decline of the US dallar. We all benefit from that. Which is why I buy American Cars and when I can I buy American guns.
All of that is true to some degree. With that said you really don't have to buy American to accomplish it. As I pointed out, the auto worker that works for Honda in Marysville, or the machinist who works for Beretta in Accokeek are helped in keeping their jobs secure when you buy a "foreign" gun or car in today's market. The profit is enjoyed by both Beretta and Honda.

Another example of the exact opposite is Weatherby. There firearms are not made in house, but rather have been made all over the planet. Germany, Japan, Belgium, as well as in several states. It's an American company based in California, but if your Mark V DeLuxe was made in Germany the machinist in Dusseldorf, or wherever, is glad every time one sells. Our world economics are getting more complicated every day. Bill T.
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:19 PM
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Thanks for the answers guys. Part of the reason I want an Italian made gun is because then it's made in Italy. I know, that's kind of silly, but that's just what I want. :shrugs: I suppose an American gun would be fine, it just seems overdone. I'm happy you guys are proud of your country, but sometimes American Patriotism gets a little tiring.

Helix, I'd like to point out a critical flaw in your "buy American" suggestion: I'm not American.

Canadian and proud! eh?

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Buy North American then Good luck finding the one you want, it's the differences that make the world go round. Some times half the fun is in the pursuit of that special piece. Until recently it had been so long since I'd been gun shopping I almost forgot how much fun it is.

A few years back more than I care to count, I bought my first handgun, a Beretta 92 through Gunbroker.com. It was a 92FS Beretta Advanced Tactical System "B.A.T.S." They only made 200 of them and it came with a matching Beretta Airlight knife, aluminum locking case, wrap around grips. A real odity in terms of the run of the mill Beretta 92. You might try that site as they tend to have a good selection of new and used and the occasional odd item like Italian made Berettas, usually used.
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The US made version is said to be sloppy in the slide and other machined parts and nothing much like the Italian version, I just bought a Italian beretta and it can't be faulted, nice gun.
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Old 06-19-2010, 03:17 PM
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Cool, thanks for the info. I'll not be buying my Beretta any time soon, but I doubt it will be too long. . .
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My US made 92 had no issues with slop in the slide. Never heard that one.
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The gun is made to the same blueprints and set of tolerances regardless if it's made here or in Italy. Bill T.
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Old 06-26-2010, 10:34 AM
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My US-made 92FS is as nice as the Italian-made one my son recently purchased. FWIW, the case my US-made 92 came in said Made in Italy on it, so I don't think you could rely on that to determine country of origin.
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