Hey, thanks! You too.

Just remember though, a shooting scenario with a person charging you is not the same as when an animal does it. Firepower from a high capacity handgun doesn't work as well on an animal as it does on a man. Humans are very soft compared to an animal regarding the punishment they can take under normal circumstances, and animals generally have a strong sense of survival from living in the outdoors, harassment by predators etc. Heck, even a whitetail deer can run a long ways after a hit with an '06 through the boiler room. You won't see a human take an expanding round from the same gun and go anywhere but straight down.

Hey, good luck on your hunt, but beware! Hog hunting is very addictive.

A 10mm with this ammo, these 220gr. hard cast at over 1200fps will do the job.


https://www.buffalobore.com/index.ph...t_detail&p=219

Well, I don't want to disparage anyone's caliber choice. I have carried all sorts of stuff out in the woods and it all has the capability to work just great, properly applied.

I have seen, in multiple handgun calibers, jacketed hollowpoints flatten out and fail to penetrate enough to go through the shoulder or skull of a pig. Even in rifles this sometimes happens! A bullet that will hold together will go through a pig. A bullet that fragments or flattens out too easily may not.

A .35 Rem in a rifle is usually a fairly light handy rifle and I wouldn't feel handicapped carrying one looking for a pig. However, given any choice in the matter, a good revolver with hard cast loads (or maybe a 1911 with GOOD hard cast loads) is what I would recommend and prefer.

It doesn't take a cannon to go through a pig skull, it just takes the correct bullet. This pig went down to a 240gr. SWC at about 1,000fps. Very mild load for the .44 mag and lots of other cartridges can have the same ballistics.

Personal opinion.

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I agree, hard cast bullet on hogs is the way to go, but DON'T use them for personal defense loads. If you did ever have to use one, it might cause you a whole lot of grief. You can almost be assured it's going to shoot through that person, maybe even a person behind them and into a third person. Not exactly something you would want to deal with, in life or in court.

That's why many are using certain 135 and 155 grain hollow points at max velocity. They almost explode on impact, make a huge hole but won't go through a person hit in most any part of their body mass.

If you decide after getting a 10mm it's still not enough for hogs, it's still one hellava personal defense load.

I wish to thank everbody for taking the time to look at and comment on my question I hope all that has replied have a GREAT and SAFE HUNTING YEAR may you be blessed with a Trophy of your choice your continued remarks are always welcome and if any have a pic or two you would like to share if this is accetable under the terms of use from this forum please feel free to do so. I look forward to learn more from your comments

Here's the .35 Rem vs. pig....

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What was the load and range, angle etc., Mike?

Nice Pig Mike thank you for sharing on your .35 rem do you remember what your load was

Broadside, a little under a hundred yards, and the Beartooth 180gr. "+p" pistol bullet loaded to 2,300fps at the muzzle. 8 steps later with blood pouring out of both sides, the pig expired.

Don't you love a happy ending?

Oh by the way the factory 200gr. Remington load works pretty good too. Don't know if I have any pictures of it in action though.

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Mike Happy Endings are always good thanks for sharing again bet you had 1 or 2 great meals after that =)

A well constructed bullet of adequate weight and diameter, directed to a tender spot works every time.

Now if they could just come up with one that would gut, skin, debone and wrap the meat.

I've seen what a .50 BMG round will do to one, and it's close to that!

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Probably looked about like those critters that the character played by Michael Grossman was shooting with a 50BMG in Tremors II eh?:G

I just want to say thank you to everyone who has help me with is question and LOL I now have to blame everyone since I went to look at guns yes all this great information here lead me to the gun store and I had to get a Savage 111 long range hunter in 300 win mag (calling my name) so I could justify the trip there since the Glock 20 10mm was not in stock. I just want to thank eveyone again happy hunting

I custom loaded this for a friend who wanted to go bear hunting up in Maine. All he had for a backup gun was a Dan Wesson 357 Magnum. Usually not the weapon of choice for a backup gun for bear, but it works ! Because of the hair, hide and muscle on a bear, you need a bullet that will penitrate. but expand when it hits bone. I used a Remigton 35 cal. jacketed, pointed bullet. The diameter is about .001"/ .002" smaller than the 357 Mag. handgun load. so there is no problem with fit. But, because of the extra length of the 35 Rem. bullet, you need to use a 38 special case in order for it to fit in the 357Mag. hand gun. Use the right powder and primer and you'll have a good close range ( 20 ft.) backup load. Be careful not to overload the powder. Be aware of the safety factors. If your not a reloader, find a good one to do it for you. Test the load by firing it into a stack of wet magazines tied together about a foot thick. Try different bullets and powders and primers to vary the penitration. Just remember, soft lead bullets don't work well on bears and boars. Otherwise, get yourself a 45 LC, or 44 Mag. with the right jacketed bullet and you'll do just fine. Hope this will be of some help to you.

The mossy oak or Realtree Max-1 would work great. There's a ton of stuff to choose from now and you can spend all you want or as little as you want. Personally I like Under Armour, Rocky, and Arctic Shield, they all three have scent control clothing that does not use carbon like Scent Blocker or Scent-Lok. The last two require special washing with specific detergents as well as being reactivated in the dryer prior to going hunting. The first three you just need one of the detergents for camo clothing and no need to reactivate prior to using. The carbon clothing actually has a 5 year or so life line before you would need more, depending on how much you wash them. I'm a Realtree guy myself, but either one would work great. Bass Pro Shop and Cabela's, will carry a much broader choice than most stores, but Academy Sports has a decent line also.

9mm ammo has a history of bouncing off windshields ( FBI Fact ) and will bounce off an animal scull as well. Be careful where you place your shots.

You are best to leave the 9mm pistol back home in the safe! I have used one of my Glock 10mm in 200 grn bullets but I much prefer to have the .44mag model 29 on my side for putting down any animals that are not yet dead.

I once witnessed a conservation agent put down a big doe that had run into a women's car while she was driving on the hiway. The speed limmit is 45MPH on that curve and I am positive she was doing the legal limit. The doe looked dead as a doornail but suddenly kept trying to get up and run off. I informed the agen and he took out his Glock 9mm and shot it twice in the head. It wasn't 10 minutes later that this deer was doing the same blessed thing. So one again the "agent" pulled his pistol and tried to finish off that deer. This deer before it was all over, had been shot at least 6 times in the head with his service pistol. I'll take a .41 or .44 mag anyday to dispatch critters along side the road.

Two problems I see with this post

1-I would never leave any weapon at home, and not take anything with me.
2-I've seen cops shoot, and the cop was probably missing with his shots and thats why the deer wouldn't die.