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Old 02-25-2009, 10:28 AM
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I recently bought a Lee Classic Turret press and would like to put a powder measure on it and have a few questions.

1) Which is the better way to go, Auto-Disk or Pro-Disk
2)Adjustable charge bar, or Disk kit
3)Do I need Lee dies to mount the powder measure

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Old 02-25-2009, 01:07 PM
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A lot depends on what you are doing. If you are loading multiple calibers and loads, then you want an adjustable measure. If you loading for one caliber, and with one load (ie 40 with one load) as a normal practice, then the auto disk will work well.
You will need the Lee die.
I use the Lee autodisk for loading bullseye ammunition, and I am happy with it. I think the Pro disk is an upgraded version.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:02 PM
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I bought Lee's Auto-Disk powder measure quite some time ago, and I subsequently bought the Pro-Auto-Disk upgrade. Having only the set of disks is actually fine for most of what I do, but I prefer the Pro-Auto's adjustable charge bar because it gives me more flexibility to refine my charge weights.

If you would like to load small rifle cartridges (up to ~223-size cases) using this measure, then IIRC you will not be able to use the adjustable bar. You'll have to buy the Double-Disk kit to get enough volume to throw those charges.

Whichever you choose, I know that I have found my Auto-Disk powder measure to be among the best choices in terms of metering flake powders (like Unique) consistently. Given the price, I'd choose it again every time for pistol loading.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:06 PM
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Thanks for the replies,I have had a lot of presses over the years, Blue, green, orange, but this Lee classic turret is by far the most easiest turret or semi progressive press I have used.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:20 PM
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Lee does make an adapter to use other folks dies with the auto-disk and pro-disk measure. I really like Lee dies so that's what I use. I especially like the Lee four die pistol sets that separate the seating and crimping into two steps.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:39 PM
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The pro disc with 2 sets of disc works well for most applications. The adjustable charge bar doesn't throw very constistant charges with flake powders.
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Old 02-28-2009, 04:40 AM
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The only die that I have made for a powder measure is a Lyman for 45 acp, it has the 7/8x14 threads and flairs the case. Will the Lee measure fit on this die ?
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:37 AM
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I prefer the Pro Auto Disk with the adjustable charge bar. You will need the Lee Auto Disk Powder Measure Riser so the powder measure will clear the Primer tray when the turret rotates. Im with Bob, the Lee four die set is really nice for loading pistol ammo.
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:20 PM
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Thanks for everybody s response, Lee hit a home run with their Classic turret, this is one nice press. Glad I got mine when I did ($89.50) from Graf & sons before Lee finds out they could sell it for a lot more money.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:34 PM
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I have the Classic Turret as well. I purchased the Pro Auto Disk set plus the double stack set for larger calibers. I added the Adjustable Charge Bar lately, and it seems very accurate as well.

I have found that the cavities do run to the light side of things with Hodgdon HP-38 anyway. I did a test measuring 24 loads from each cavity from .30 up to .53 and averaged the findings.

.30CC = 2.95 grains (3.2 listed approx. capacity for HP-38)
.32CC = 3.04 grains (3.5)
.34CC = 3.40 grains (3.7)
.37CC = 3.75 grains (4.0)
.40CC = 4.10 grains (4.3)
.43CC = 4.35 grains (4.6)
.46CC = 4.64 grains (5.0)
.49CC = 4.97 grains (5.3)
.53CC = 5.50 grains (5.7)

If you have a copy of Lee's Modern Reloading, these figures are definitely lighter than what is listed in many cases. Due to powder manufactuers density by lot variation of up to 16% I think is stated. Now when I use HP-38 I have a baseline to operate from. I plan on doing the same for my other powders as well.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:16 AM
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Like several of you, I have a Lee Classic turret press that I use with Lee carbide pistol dies. I also use a Lee Auto Disk powder measure but I'm not totally satisfied with it. The charges are very accurate but it tends to leak powder quite a bit. I'm thinking of getting the Pro Auto Disk measure as a replacement. Are they less likely to leak powder?
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Like several of you, I have a Lee Classic turret press that I use with Lee carbide pistol dies. I also use a Lee Auto Disk powder measure but I'm not totally satisfied with it. The charges are very accurate but it tends to leak powder quite a bit. I'm thinking of getting the Pro Auto Disk measure as a replacement. Are they less likely to leak powder?
I have the Lee Auto Disk Powder measure as you do. It works great except for flake powders like IMR800X and small grain ball powders like H110. I don't think large flake powders will work well in most powder measures. It is difficult to get consistent charges with it. Using H110 I could get consistent charges but the measure would leak quite a bit of powder. I hope someone with the Pro Auto Disk will chime in on the use of H110 as I am also curious as to how well this measure will perform with it. I also have a Lee Perfect Powder measure and it also does not perfom well with the H110. It leaks and develops a very gritty movement. One measure I have found that works the best so far with H110 is the RCBS Quick Change Powder measure. It gives very consistent charges and does not leak the H110 at all. I have three 357 mag guns and like the performance of H110 so that is why I was looking for a good powder measure to use it in.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:45 AM
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Like several of you, I have a Lee Classic turret press that I use with Lee carbide pistol dies. I also use a Lee Auto Disk powder measure but I'm not totally satisfied with it. The charges are very accurate but it tends to leak powder quite a bit. I'm thinking of getting the Pro Auto Disk measure as a replacement. Are they less likely to leak powder?
I can only speak for the Pro Auto Disk system, and it is very very clean. In fact, I never see any powder. No leaks at all. I have heard of a guy that complained about the Pro system being messy to change the hopper out or change a disk. But I figured out how to do that without any mess at all. What I do is finish the job I'm on and then rotate the hopper to the closed position. Then install an empty case in the turret and position the powder die system over the case and manually pull the handle a few times into the same case. I dump it into the hopper and check by pulling a time or two and when the case comes up empty I know I can remove the hopper. I may find a couple of individual flakes where the hopper contacts the disk but thats it. All most completely powder free. So I would answer your question with a thumbs up on this system.
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GiddyUpGo,
Have you used any H110 in your Pro Auto Disk Measure? Was the measure leak free using it as well?
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:24 PM
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That was a good tip, GiddyUpGo. I just started loading center-fire and, so far, I've only used Accurate #5 in my .38 Spc. and .45 ACP loads. I end up with a lot of the #5 all over the turret, etc. after loading only 50 rounds or so. I've also had some problems with the disk sticking and have to manually move it back into place at times rather than the spring pulling it back.
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I use G-U-G's method above for hopper or powder changes. I've used W296 (same powder as H110) through my Auto Disk before, and I don't have trouble with it. I don't get powder where it's not supposed to be unless I've switched between the std. disks and the adjustable charge bar and forgot to tighten the screws or something.

I take that back. I've been able to spill very small amounts of powder if I'm running the thing really fast. I have been able, once or twice, to outrun the powder's ability to drop into the case or have over-extended the measure (mis-adjusted it) and made it drop a few granules off the end of it.

I've also found the Auto Disk to be among the most consistent volumetric measures available for flake powders like Unique.
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Have you used any H110 in your Pro Auto Disk Measure? Was the measure leak free using it as well?
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No, sorry I haven't used H110 yet. None available here locally. Not yet anyway.
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That was a good tip, GiddyUpGo. I just started loading center-fire and, so far, I've only used Accurate #5 in my .38 Spc. and .45 ACP loads. I end up with a lot of the #5 all over the turret, etc. after loading only 50 rounds or so. I've also had some problems with the disk sticking and have to manually move it back into place at times rather than the spring pulling it back.
LOL! I know what you mean about the powder all over the turret. I was wondering how in the world to change powders without the mess. Then the light bulb went on and I tried it. I was actually surprised at how clean it finishes up this way. Let me know how it works for you.

If the disk is sticking I have to wonder if the spring is set to the proper position? Mine works like a champ. Maybe you have a burr on some surface...?
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LOL! I know what you mean about the powder all over the turret. I was wondering how in the world to change powders without the mess. Then the light bulb went on and I tried it. I was actually surprised at how clean it finishes up this way. Let me know how it works for you.

If the disk is sticking I have to wonder if the spring is set to the proper position? Mine works like a champ. Maybe you have a burr on some surface...?
I thought maybe it was the spring, too so I removed and reinstalled it and also loosened the screw that holds the return arm on the body of the measure. That seemed to help some but it still wants to hang up occasionally. It's not a big problem but more of an irritation. I actually load single-stage so I can check the process for each step so I just manually return the lever to the home position when it does stick. Even so, it still throws small amounts of powder onto the top of the disk and that gets scattered around, especially on top of the turret.
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Twolves, are you right handed? If so, when sitting by the press can you read the letters "On Off" on the bottom of the hopper or is the lettering on the other side from you?

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