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Old 03-05-2010, 03:24 AM
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With regard to a Hornady L-N-L loader and cast bullets...

It seems like using the RCBS bullet feed die with a short feed tube would be slightly faster and less taxing than carefully placing the bullet on the case mouth. I'm thinking a short stack of say 10-20 bullets in the tube might make for more uniform bullet placement with less fiddling and tipping of bullets. It's a concept. But I don't find the dies available separately. Do you know if they are available without buying the entire bullet feed system?

Only from what I've read, I gather that the die setup doesn't do much, though, to drive the bullet into the case mouth. I got the impression the bullet just sits there precariously perched.
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Old 03-14-2010, 08:47 AM
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You'd have to call RCBS and ask.

As far as starting bullets in straight, two possibilities are to get a Forster or Redding competition seating die with sliding sleeve (the Hornady version does not work as well, I'm told). These dies straighten the bullet before seating it, then have a floating seating stem that lets it self-center. They produce very straight ammunition.

A second possibility is to use a Lyman M die, which is a flaring die normally used with cast bullets. It puts an expanded step in the case mouth that holds the bullet upright until the seating die starts in on it. This would be an extra step, so if you have a powder checking die or something in your fifth station now, you'd need to exchange if for the M die.
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The RCBS bullet feeder is only for pistol bullets, so I would assume the OP is talking about seating pistol bullets. Redding has a "competition" seater for pistol cartridges, but it does not include a sliding sleeve. It has a spring loaded seating stem, a micrometer adjustment, and it cannot crimp while seating. Forster does not make pistol dies.

I use the Hornady pistol seating die, and it works very well. It also has an optional micrometer adjustment screw, and it has a spring clip on the bottom that when removed, everything that comes in contact with the bullet/lube comes out in your hand for easy cleaning. And when you put it all back in, the settings are right where you left them. The Hornady seating die can crimp while seating, and every Hornady die comes with one of the best cross-bolt lock rings on the planet.

Hornady rifle seating dies work the same way, but Redding Comp series and Forster rifle seating dies work better. Of Redding and Forster, performance is equal, but Forster is cheaper and has better lock rings. Forster gives you the option of the same sliding sleeve with or without micrometer adjustment.

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Old 03-14-2010, 12:09 PM
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I use RCBS' Competition seater die for .204, .223, and .22 Hornet. I originally bought the die for .204 Ruger, but I just bought the parts to upgrade it to .22H for $20 direct from RCBS. It'll work for any caliber as long as you get the sleeve and seater stem, short cartridges need an extended shellholder.
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Old 03-14-2010, 01:36 PM
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For pistol, then, the Lyman M die for flaring is what you want, if it can be fit into the load sequence on that press? I ground that profile into my Dillon measure drop/op tubes, prior to which the bullet base mirroring bulge was always uneven; but not afterward.

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With regard to a Hornady L-N-L loader and cast bullets...

It seems like using the RCBS bullet feed die with a short feed tube would be slightly faster and less taxing than carefully placing the bullet on the case mouth. I'm thinking a short stack of say 10-20 bullets in the tube might make for more uniform bullet placement with less fiddling and tipping of bullets. It's a concept. But I don't find the dies available separately. Do you know if they are available without buying the entire bullet feed system?

Only from what I've read, I gather that the die setup doesn't do much, though, to drive the bullet into the case mouth. I got the impression the bullet just sits there precariously perched.
I was interested in the same thing so I sent them an email to RCBS and here's what I got back.

"The price for additional bullet dies is
$10.95 each. The price for additional bullet guides is $7.95 each. You
can order them direct from us. Let us know if you wish to order. Have
a great day!"

Had I done a little more research I would have not bought their bullet feeder since they don't have a .44 and .50 cal guides for the bullet dies and don't plan on making any in the future. Another thing sucks is there are no plans to be able to upgrade a pistol feeder to a rifle bullet feeder so if you want to load rifle, you have to spend another $400 + to do it. Sure hope Hornady comes up with something that you can change back and forth between rifle and pistol. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

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