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Old 04-12-2013, 07:33 PM
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Are dies interchangeable???


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I am new to reloading and have been buying bits and pieces of reloading equipment. I went to my local gun store and saw dies from hornady rcbs and various other companies. I am hoping to purchase a hornady progressive press soon. Which dies other than hornady work with the press?
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:19 AM
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ccctennis,

"Most" dies are the same 7/8X14 thread size.

Not all. For example the old Lyman tong tools were different as are the currently made Square Deal B dies for the Dillon SDB.

Hornady is a good product as is RCBS and Redding if not top of the line is close.

This is just my Ol'Coot's opinion, but buy a single stage and learn the process before going with a progressive of any kind.

And yes, I do have a Hornady LNL progressive. However, it came to live here only after MANY years of single stage press use and the single stage still gets more use then the progressive.

If it wasn't for some handguns, the progressive wouldn't be used at all and considering I find reloading a pleasurable pass time, I sometimes wonder at the wisdom of even buying a progressive.

Considering your just getting into the reloading game, if you have plans to reload any bottle neck cartridges, I have a document on die set up you might find interesting. Just send me a "PM" with your personal "E" address if interested.

Some of the instructions packaged with bottle neck dies is to say the least, miss leading.

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Old 04-13-2013, 09:30 AM
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Thanks for all the good advice. I think I may get a single stage press for all my rifle reloading and learn and then work my handgun reloads on the progressive press. Thanks for the info!
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Old 04-13-2013, 09:41 AM
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But they don't all work the same

If you are buying a Hornady progressive press, stick with the Hornady reloading dies suggested by the blubs in the box with the Press.

The relevant word here is Progressive. If you were only using a standard press, than any die set would suffice. These die body threads are simply the industry standard for that size of bolt/shaft. They all produce reloads, but Lyman handles straight walled cases differently than RCBS does. So I use RCBS or Hornady for bottle necks and only Lyman for straight walled ones.

With a progressive, and I only have the standard RCBS Rockchucker, ( Big One), I would go with whichever die set is recommended. And Hornady will obviously recommend Hornady reloading dies. Ditto with a Dillon Progressive Press, and die set combo. I do believe that you will get better service, from Hornady, by using their recommended reloading die set, for their progressive press.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:01 AM
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Interesting Carpooler,

I have never used Lyman dies, and have loaded many non-bottle neck cases, starting in the 60s. 9mm, 38/357, 40, 45acp, .44 etc. Mostly with RCBS and Hornady dies.

What is different with the Lyman dies which you find better?

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Old 04-13-2013, 11:47 AM
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Crusty, It's been too long since I compared a reloading die set for straight walled RCBS with a Lyman set. But long ago, I did, and after using both, side by side, I went with the Lyman system. There is a different way Lyman does the expanding, ect.. They will both reload ammo in straight walled cases, but I came to the conclusion that while Mr. Huntington, nailed the bottle necks, it was the Lyman way for a straight walled case. But back then I was loading lead bullets in my straight walled cases. Lyman also later added M stepped expander dies which helped out a lot. They had a smaller stepped expander for the .358 size, that may have had a different code letter, too.
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Thanks Carpooler,

I have never had a problem from anything other then inproper die adjustment, so was just wondering what I was missing here.

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Only thing I'll add is if it is a straight wall case get the Carbide Dies. I'll make loading easier.

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Yep, go carbide. Bit more money but a real time saver on those handgun calibers.

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I learned on my uncle's Lyman "All American" turret press, turrets are really nothing more than multiple station single stage presses, they only do one thing at a time.
I have my own Lyman AA on one end of the bench and an RCBS "RS" sitting on the other end, in between then sits my Dillon RL550B, I have dies from RCBS, Lyman, LEE, Horandy and Dillon that I use in all of them, the Lyman dies might be good in a single stage?, they're no better than any other in the Dillon, and yes, get the CARBIDE dies, they're worth the extras coin!
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If you're concerned about sizer scratches on your cases, by all means get carbide sizer dies. Steel sizer dies, while a bit less expensive, can pick up scratches from grit and transfer them onto your cases. Much less likely using carbide dies. I have carbide dies purchased in the '60s and used constantly that have never scratched a case.
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7/8x14 is the industry standard for reloading dies. You can find other speciality dies made for specific presses but they are the exception rather than the norm.

Another vote for the carbide sizing dies for non-bottle neck cases.
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Morning Wrenchman from, Ory-gon.

Having NEVER used a turret type press, and switched from a "C" type press to the "O" type many years back, the one thing I have always questioned was the flex or possible slop in the turret style.

You as a turret used sound qualified to shed some light on the subject.

Does the turret provide for adjustment to take care of wear after lots of use or does that simply not happen.

I can surely understand the positive side of a turret, but have been close to and used mechanical items for most of my working life, and stuff wears and gets loose/sloppy. It's a fact of mechanical life.

What about the turret?

Sorry to hijack this topic, but it is a question I have always had with this type of press.

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My Lyman has a post on the back side, all be it a bit spindly?, but it is a support none the less and the turret head is adjustable on the end play also, properly set up and maintained I see no issues?, the only other turret that I've ever really looked at is the REDDING "T7", it has a huge cast in support on the back side to prevent the center post from flexing back, also they (the Lyman for sure and I suspect the others as well!?) have detents to position the head for correct orientation to the ram.
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Thanks Wrenchman,

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New dies

Now dies are listed as "nitride" dies. It says they are self lubricating. Not sure if nitride is same as carbide.
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Yup. Same concept, if not the same material.
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