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Old 05-19-2004, 12:57 PM
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Question Load data for .30 carbine revolver


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Hi,

I have recently brought a Taurus long barreled revolver in .30 carbine (trying to be different), and have been shooting jacketed factory loads.

I now want to give it a really good clean and switch to hardcast bullets.
I've brought some 110 grain SWC GC bullets and have some Lil'Gun Powder and Remington 6 half small rifle primers but no load data.

Ideally it would be great to have two loads to shoot, one at around 1200(50yds),
and the other towards the max (100yds plus).

Your thoughts and advice on a safe starting place would be much appreciated.

Hutzpah
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:08 PM
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Went looking in the newest Lyman, but didn't find a page for .30carb. revovlers (and the T/C data isn't the same)...did find some listings in older editions (Pistol and Revolver Handbook 1st and 2nd edition)...problem is, most of that data is WAY over today's max. listed loads in other calibers, so am hesitant to quote from the sourse....let it be a WARNING.

One that did wirk well when I shoot a Ruger Blackhawk was 6gr, of Unique under a 120gr. #311359. While your bullet isn't the same as that one, it may be a place to start looking for that 1200fps loading.

4227 worked well in rifle loads, and shot good groups in the revovler...but it is a bit dirty in the revovler (unbruned powder)...but seems safe enough even with slight compression (full case volume...about 13.2gr.). This got 1350 in my Ruger and is listed as 1388fps in the Lyman...pretty close. While I haven't tried it personally, believe you'd really have to work at it to fit a massive overload of IMR 4227 into a .30carbine case.
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Old 05-19-2004, 02:34 PM
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I have an article on handloading the 30 Carb just for revolvers in an issue of handloader magazine at home (I'm at work right now). As soon as I get home tonight I can find it and give you some ideas if you'd like.

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Old 05-23-2004, 05:02 PM
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Most of the data you will find out there is for the rifle not the pistol. My data shows basically the same for both. I have a Ruger in 30 carbine since 1968 and it is one of the loudest reports I have ever shot. Its so bad that even with ear plugs and ear muffs I cannot shot over a dozen or so rounds before developing a splitting headache. Once when I let someone else shoot it at night I found out the reason. Most of the powder is burned outside the barrel (4-6 foot flame) thus the tremendous report and headaches. This was using military surplus ammo.

As the previous person noted some powder doesn't burn clean due to low pressure in the short barrel. Although the carbine rifle had a short barrel its still longer than a pistol. I've never taken the time to develop a loading because of this. The loads I did use was from load books published in the sixities and seventies and used mainly Winchester 630 and 296 powders with 100 grain plinker bullets. These powders required magnum primers for best performance.

Sierra 5th Edition Loading Manual, Hornady Sixth Edition and Speer Number 13 Edition load books all contain loadings for this round in handgun and rifle loadings. I notice some use a T/C pistol with a 10" barrel so you'll have to adjust loading accordingly.

I also used the 115 grain gas checked cast lead bullet from a lyman mould and for plinking it worked just fine with the two above powders. Back then I never had a chrony so have no idea what the velocity was.
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I have an article on handloading the 30 Carb just for revolvers in an issue of handloader magazine at home (I'm at work right now). As soon as I get home tonight I can find it and give you some ideas if you'd like.

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i fergot the mold numbers, but the molds im using are on the heavy side in the lyman cast bullet handbook. one is a rnpb and the ither one is pointed with a gascheck. what im getting at is i have a ruger .30 carbine pistol with a 7.5" barrel and would like to use unique, but i will take all the .30 carbine reload data i can get for cast bullets, seing that obama is drying up reloading supplies here in texas, especially primers. im having to make my own gaschecks. the only real problem im having right now is gettin pat marlin to ship me the gascheckmaker for the .41 mag that i ordered on 5-25-11. i m not saying this to make him mad, but i have already paid for it ahead of the next batch of production that he mentions. i like his bottlecap gaschecks. they work fine.
but right now i need to know for sure that 6.0 gr of unique will work with ww small rifle primers with lymans cast bullets safely. i need help folks. im old and i dont know everything even if i do have every loading manual published all the way back to 1920. please help me,,,,email me sonthing please
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Hutzpah and oldmantoo491....check your PM's
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No argument that the 30 Carbine is one of the loudest handgun rounds in existence, but I do wish we could someday stop repeating that old chestnut about powder burning outside the barrel. It simply doesn't. (If it did, it would burn just as it does if you light a pile of the stuff: slowly and poorly, not with a blast.)
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Hogden lists identical data for handguns and rifles for the 30 Carbine.They show 17.5 as max for a an 85 gr, 15.5 for the 100 gr and 15.0 gr with a 110 gr bullet with Lil Gun powder.These are all jacketed bullet loads that are listed.The only data for Lil Gun was listed in the rifle section.Hope this helps you with your quest for a load with Lil Gun powder

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Old 08-04-2011, 09:08 PM
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I had a ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine abut 20 years ago and traded it because it was too loud to be so under powered. But i did check my notes and the 100 gr speer RN over 14gr of H110 was marked as an accurate load.
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