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Old 04-15-2006, 01:42 PM
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While I was cruising the gun show in Craig today I spotted this powder. The guy selling the stuff says it's supposed to take the place of H870 (yeah right) So, I went to the Hogdon's web site to check it out. While they still list H870, they didn't list the US869 for 165 grain bullets in the 300RUM or 150"s in the 7 mm Rem. mag. And the two powders use different weights so they are not interchangeable.

Anybody here try this powder yet? If it does work as good as the old H870 I'll have to try some. I did notice that it took a few morw grains to acheave the same velocity as H870 but hey with 100+ grain loads who cares about another grain or two.

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Old 04-17-2006, 05:56 AM
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Not yet seen US869.

The folks at Hodgdon told me Retumbo has a very similar burn rate to H870. I've had good success with Retumbo in my 7mm Rem Mag and 300 Win Mag. I've even been using it with my 25-06, accuracy is great but I think it's a little too slow for 100 grain bullets in the -06, I get blackening around the case neck. Thought I'd try IMR 7828 in the -06 and 243 Winchester both with 100 grain bullets.

I'll be looking out for the new powder. I like all of Hodgdon's slow burn rate powders and Varget. The only one I don't care for is H4831. I know a lot of people have had very good luck with it but my results with this powder haven't been anything to brag about.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:06 AM
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Had to buy a pound just for testing purposes. It looks just like H870. But there's always more to something than just looks. I will follow the manufacturer's recomendations exactly.

According to Hogdon's burn rate chart US 869 is even slower than H50 BMG, and 3 notches slower than H870. The US 869 may not work to well with lighter bullets than 180's in the 300RUM.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:51 PM
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If you like H870, you might try some of Accurate Arms' 8700 powder.
Seems very, very, very similar to H870 to me.
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:16 PM
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I bought a pound to test with my newly re-chambered 1885 in
7mm-300 Weatherby. I will use just 175 gr boat tails, 180 gr VLD Hunting, and 195 gr Barns SSPs.
I suspect it will do well with those weights, along with the Retumbo.

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Old 03-08-2012, 09:23 AM
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works for the 6.5-300WSM
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:42 AM
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US869 works well in my .264 mag with 130 Branes TSX and 140 gr Remington Coreloct UltraBond bullets.
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Old 03-08-2012, 12:46 PM
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HA HA HA

Now, 6 years later! Cool.

My 300RUM likes it with 200 grain Accubonds

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Old 03-20-2012, 06:37 PM
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US 869 in 338 RUM

Hi R.J.,
This is a 50 Browning M.G. powder. Like 250 grains of it. I wasn't happy with the sloppy chamber in my L700 BDL, so I put 35 cal. necks in my virgin cases (Rem), and did the old false shoulder bit. After firing these, I went up two grains since the cases were now basically neck sized to the chamber.Felt recoil doubled, and may have exceeded the factory ammunition I fired as a comparison. I was shooting some ancient 275 gr. Speer's, and these may have swaged out against the inside of the barrel. This much giddy up over two grains, with both loads above 90grs., gave me pause. Speer pulled this bullet due to terminal blowups, and I don't know which of the 338 Hot Rods were responsible. I had a 250 bullet stash, orphaned after I sold my BAR 338 Win. Mag. so I've used them in load development with my new RUM.

Now I've been advised to get some Barnes TSX's, and since the 250 is a solid, this means, sticking with their 210 or 225. An in law's Rem Big Eight, using 200 gr. Barnes, of some sort, seems to kick a lot more than normal. Just saying. If this powder is limited to the heaviest slugs, then check out the Barnes Data site, and make your own choices.

This US 869 seems to be a really heavy bullet for bore powder, in really big (low expansion ratios) cases. I think it's pushing those old Speer 275's over the tipping point, and I'll soon find out about the higher bore resistance of some Barnes TTSX F.B.'s. Their 250 is out, for me, because it is a solid.

But a lot of smoke has been written about extreme service powders. Our 50 cal. machine guns, especially for air service, requires the most extreme service powders of all. During WWII, the Franklin Arsenal skimmed the ammo supplies for the U.S. Army Air Corps. Only the best of the best, was tagged to feed MG's firing through the propeller blades. And some of these planes were flying at really high altitudes when they were in life or death fights.

If the H-US 869 is the real deal here, it's got one very impressive pedigree. But Barnes's page for my 338 RUM doesn't list it. Not even in their 250 gr. solid's data.
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