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Old 05-20-2007, 10:44 AM
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Hello all, I'm new to this forum. I'm working up a hunting load for a new Ruger .25-06. I'm using Remington 100 grain bullets for breaking in the barrel and sighting in, I'll be using Barnes 100 grain TSX bullets for hunting loads provided they group well. Having never loaded this particular round, what powders do you guys like. I've been loading for couple of decades and I'm partial to Hodgdon powders and plan to try H4831 and Varget powders in the 25. Any opinions and experiences of powders with this bullet weight would be appreciated, especially with the Barnes bullet. I've never used solids before. Thanks....Jeff
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:03 AM
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Welcome to the forum Jeff. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

I've use the Barnes bullets in the 243 and they work well. I've never had a 25-06, but lots of our forum members do and have great results with them.

When you get your 4831 get the SC (short cut) it measures so much nicer.
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Old 05-20-2007, 04:56 PM
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Jeff,
I've never used the 100 gr bullet in the 25-06, but the Speer manual #12 lists H4831 for 100 gr bullets with 56 gr max load at 3140 fps, and starting load of 52 gr at 2748 fps. I stick to the 120 gr in the 25 since it's pushing 3000 fps.

I've had my best accuracy and velocity using IMR 4350 and IMR 7828 with 120's, and both of these powders are ahead of the H4831 in Speer's load charts for velocity.

If you want to load for varmints (if you're not trying to save pelts on coyotes), give the 75 gr Hornady HP a try; explosive action on rockchucks!

I have yet to use a Barnes bullet. They got some bad press for accuracy and pressures in their earlier bullets, but I've heard (and witnessed) good results with the TSX in other calibers.

Good luck.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:10 PM
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Like a previous poster, I never used 100 gr bullets - I always stuck to 120's for deer and 87gr for varmints. Nevertheless, IMR 4831, IMR 7828, and H1000 always worked well for me, with IMR 4831 being the very best. Also, IMR 4064 was great with the 87 gr bullet. I would expect H4831 to work reasonably well, too, depending on the individual rifle.

I wish I still had my 25-06. It was, by far, the most accurate long range rifle I ever owned. Others would match it at 100yds, but out at 300-400 yards the 25-06 groups were tighter for some reason. I shot one (and only one!) 5 shot group at 300yds that could be covered with a nickel. Not bad for a sporter weight off-the-shelf Remington with 3X9 Tasco.

I hope you have good luck with yours.
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:36 AM
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The 25-06 is one of my favorite rounds. I shoot the Sierra 100 grn IMR 4350 and CCI LR primers. My Ruger #1 and M77 does'nt like boattails as well as flat base bullets but my Brothers #1 shoots boattail 117's great. Neither of my 25's shoot 120's as well as 87's or 100's. 4350 has been my go to powder in the 25 for years. I've tried others but I can't get anything to match it. But you never know untill you try em.
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Old 05-21-2007, 06:34 PM
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Varget seems like it would be a bit fast, except maybe for the light weight bullets (say 75 to 87gr.).

I use it in the .257 Roberts, but that case has a bit less capacity.
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Old 05-24-2007, 10:26 AM
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My 25-06 load

I've been using Sierra 100gr spitzers in front of 54gr IMR-4831. Using Winchester cases and CCI 200 primers, my A-bolt will shoot under MOA all the way to 400 yards. I've tried 87 flatbased, and 117 and 120 Sierra boat tails. My rifle seems to prefer this load.
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Old 05-27-2007, 10:38 AM
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My 25-06 is a Ruger #1V. I shoot Nosler 100 grain ballistic tips over a full case of Hodgdon Retumbo and CCI 200 primers with excellent results.
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Old 05-29-2007, 10:47 AM
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Imr 4350 is popular for the 25-06 .
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I've had very good luck so far with a load very similar to MontyF, same bullet, but with 54 Gr H-4831, rather than the IMR-4831. I'll have to try the IMR-4831 sometime myself to see if it does any better.
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Old 05-31-2007, 09:53 AM
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help for your 25 powder choices

hey there friend,
just to start off i love the caliber choice its truely one of my favorites. i have it in ruger #1 bbl. a great shooter regardless of what you here in the configuration. anyway as for powders. i have tried several. i settled down on imr 4350. i use (pre molly bullets/winchester/nosler technology 87grns tips) it by far the most accurate load i have ever run. i have .50 inch groups or better at 110 yards. you might find some other powders that are equal in quality. i imagine your 100 grn tips will fly just as well. but if all else fails the imr4350 i would definatley run some test loads and see if your gun likes throwing that charge. hopefully this was helpfull if theres amything else i can add just give me shout. later Karl j. (a.k.a. joekid25)
just a fyi i started my loading around the mid 40's and worked up ..i went to 50's 53 grns to be exact. but start low and find out what the gun likes to throw the best. every rifle barrel is different. good luck and happy shooting...!!!









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Hello all, I'm new to this forum. I'm working up a hunting load for a new Ruger .25-06. I'm using Remington 100 grain bullets for breaking in the barrel and sighting in, I'll be using Barnes 100 grain TSX bullets for hunting loads provided they group well. Having never loaded this particular round, what powders do you guys like. I've been loading for couple of decades and I'm partial to Hodgdon powders and plan to try H4831 and Varget powders in the 25. Any opinions and experiences of powders with this bullet weight would be appreciated, especially with the Barnes bullet. I've never used solids before. Thanks....Jeff
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Old 06-06-2007, 05:31 PM
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Good evening. I love the 25-06 and have shot all weight bullets out of mine. Savage 112. EVERYTHING is superb out of it. I have only killed deer with ine bullet weight so far. The 100 grain. All 4 were very good bucks. 200 lbs. on the hoof. NONE of them so much as wiggled an ear after the shot. Dead as if by magic. Far more dramatic kills than I've seen from magnum rounds. Medium weight bullet at very high velocity equals major shock. For very long shots I'd try the 115-117 spitzer boat tails. RL-22 powder from Alliant is tops for this cartridge. The others listed are okay but RL-22 is a MAJOR MUST TRY for this shell. I have recipes I'll share with you if you'd like. When 115-117 grain spitzers reach 3000-3100 f.p.s. They will reach with lethal authority as far as any man can kill surely. Nothing larger will do any better as comfortably as the 25-06.
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:31 PM
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Sorry, couldn't set up E-mail. 100 grain Nos. B.T. RL-22 powder, 55.5 grains, seated 3.16". 117 grain Ballistic Tip, RL-22 powder, 53.3 grains, seated 3.16". Federal match lrg. rfl. primers. Both are easily safe in my gun and will really reach for hunting. Start below and work up. You may even get more.
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Old 06-14-2007, 06:10 PM
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25-06

You've got to try 75gr VMax in front of 60.0 gr of RL-19. My blueprinted, shilen select match barreled Win 70 shoots less than 1/2 MOA at 200... Using Win Brass, Fed 210M primers.
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Old 06-18-2007, 07:49 AM
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You've got to try 75gr VMax in front of 60.0 gr of RL-19. My blueprinted, shilen select match barreled Win 70 shoots less than 1/2 MOA at 200... Using Win Brass, Fed 210M primers.
i need some education here. i thought that reloader #19 was set to run a little larger calibers.. like 30'06,338, 308 norma, ect.... i was also under the impresion that this is somewhat slow burn rate. so using this powder with such light bullets does not work at least in theory for the adequate law of physics.. the light bullets have been advised to me that there just not heavy enough to create the type of push throught the tub. The percentage is under the quota for effective optimium performance for speed and stability.. so being that you get lower percentage on on the powder burn which is lose/lose all around. you get weeker performance all around speed, stability in flight, Range, knock down power, and diminshed accuracy over all. so can someone please explain what i call a fluke so to speak... i would really like to know becuase i would like to run some loads in the .25'06 in this very configuration... not to mention i have run 110 grn in 30'06 in reloader #19 AND GOT EXCELLENCT PERFORMANCE. so please any info would be great.. Karl J./a.k.a. Joekid25
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Old 06-22-2007, 05:33 PM
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I believe Rl-19 is a big game bullet pusher too, but it might make an accurate round albeit less than top notch power. Every barrel is different. I use RL-15 and it provides groups way under half inch at 100 in my 112. H-4350 has also done way under half inch, so has IMR 4895, RL-22 with big bullets. RL-15 and H-4350 are listed as top of the line performers with the 75's. For pure accuracy without regard to horsepower, who knows what might work.
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Old 06-22-2007, 08:22 PM
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I believe Rl-19 is a big game bullet pusher too, but it might make an accurate round albeit less than top notch power. Every barrel is different. I use RL-15 and it provides groups way under half inch at 100 in my 112. H-4350 has also done way under half inch, so has IMR 4895, RL-22 with big bullets. RL-15 and H-4350 are listed as top of the line performers with the 75's. For pure accuracy without regard to horsepower, who knows what might work.

Best load so far in mine with 110 accubonds for both accuracy and velocity
is 60 grains of Retumbo. For 100 grain sierra match bullets, IMR 4831 is
most accurate overall but slower. IMR4350, IMR3031, and IMR 7828 all
are very close in accuracy too, so if you already have them on hand i would
give them a try.
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Old 06-23-2007, 06:26 PM
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Yes, as listed above, the 25-06 thrives on most of the same powders as the bigger magnum shells. This is due to its level of overbore. It needs slow, lugging powders to reach it's full potential. However, when it does, watch out, because it is a screamer and will reach with anything short of the super magnums. This is one sure killing round and if I had only one chance with only one rifle, I'd shoot an elk or moose where it counts and then have a lot of packing to do.
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Old 06-29-2007, 07:33 PM
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Yes, as listed above, the 25-06 thrives on most of the same powders as the bigger magnum shells. This is due to its level of overbore. It needs slow, lugging powders to reach it's full potential. However, when it does, watch out, because it is a screamer and will reach with anything short of the super magnums. This is one sure killing round and if I had only one chance with only one rifle, I'd shoot an elk or moose where it counts and then have a lot of packing to do.

Yep, for 115 gr. bullets & up I use RL25. It is really good for 120 gr. NP or 125 Wildcat bullets.
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