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I am putting a Lee hand Press loading kit together for my hunting buddy’s son for his birthday. He lives in an apartment and doesn’t have a lot of space. He has a 30-06 and I haven’t loaded for that cartridge in a long time. He shoots 180 grain Hornady bullets. My question is which would be the best powder to get him for the 30-06 and this bullet weight? I plan on getting him the powder and a box of bullets with all the extras he will need. Thank you for you suggestions.
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I can't claim what's best, but I use H-414 and H-4895 with 180 grain Hornady Interlocks. Seem to work well in my A-bolt.
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IMR 4350, or H4831, take your pick!
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Gents,

IMR 4350 does the best for me in bullets of 165 and greater. I think the 150s perfered RL 19, which is close, burn rate wise.

If I had one powder, it would be 4350.

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Our local Bi Mart stocks all of the powder mentioned. This will be one happy young man at his birthday.

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With 180 grain, I would recommend IMR 4350. However, does the kit have a scale, or simply a powder dipper? If it has a powder dipper and no scale, then check the recommended powder on the chart that comes with it for the best powder to include.
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:37 PM
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Just one caveat: If his .30-06 is a Garand or other gas gun, you want to stay with one of the 4895's or Varget. The slower powders can raise the gas port pressures excessively. I like the Federal 210M primers, but about any large rifle primer will work if he works his load up for it.

If you are going to have him use the Lee dipper that comes with their Deluxe and Pacesetter die sets, you need to check their listing of what powders it's compatible with?
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Over several '06's H-414 and W760 have consistantly produced the best accuracy/velocity with any bullets most use in that round.
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TMan,

I assume you are speaking for your guns? But you reminded me of something for our questioner:

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Also take a look at Dan Newberry's site with its optimum charge weight concept. He has a 180 grain bullet in a Winchester case with 56 grains of IMR 4350 as doing very well at 300 yards. These OCW loads are chosen for working well in a wide variety of guns and with differing barrel lengths. You have to use the same case brand, in particular, with this one. Winchester cases, since the 90's have been made with more internal capacity than other brands, and therefore operate at a lower pressure with any given powder charge. A load developed in the current Winchester cases will produce higher pressure other brands. Dangerously higher if the load in the Winchester case was at or near maximum for the gun.
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You can never be sure until you work with the particular gun in question. As long as it's not a semi, your best bet would probably be 4350. It should give you that ideal 2700fps with 180 gr. bullet, & do so at less than max pressure. Moreso than many other cartridges, 06's tend to be most accurate at less than maximum velocity.
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IMR 4064 has done well for me in the '06, from bullets at 130grns to 220grns.
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IMR 4064, like IMR 4895, is a well-established powder for M1 Garand match ammo. 46.8 grains under the Sierra 175 grain MatchKing duplicates M72 ballistics, but with slightly better case filling than the 4895 load actually used. If you have a gas gun in your mix of '06 rifles, it could be your best choice.
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IMR4895 and IMR4350

I use IMR4895 in my M1 Garands and IMR4350 in my bolt guns. Both work very well in all the loads tested. Take care...
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Gents,

IMR 4350 does the best for me in bullets of 165 and greater. I think the 150s perfered RL 19, which is close, burn rate wise.

If I had one powder, it would be 4350.

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Yep, IMR 4350 and 165 gr bullets and my Rem 700 30-06 were made for each other. I get about 2800 fps. My '06 does not like 180 gr bullets all.
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Try some RamShot Hunter, I use it for my 30-06 and my 25-06. That stuff Meters great in every thrower i have tried it in. Seems to have a pretty good burn too. I'm working up loads for the Barnes 150 gr TSX for the 30-06 with it. Les
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I am putting a Lee hand Press loading kit together for my hunting buddy’s son for his birthday. He lives in an apartment and doesn’t have a lot of space. He has a 30-06 and I haven’t loaded for that cartridge in a long time. He shoots 180 grain Hornady bullets. My question is which would be the best powder to get him for the 30-06 and this bullet weight? I plan on getting him the powder and a box of bullets with all the extras he will need. Thank you for you suggestions.
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I have a few 06's:M 1 Garand IMR4895,Sako IMR 4831 or H4831SC,TC Encore 15" pistol H4831SC.If you want some Reloading info on the M1 Rifle send me your email & I'll email you the article from the 3/86 American Rifleman Reloading For The M1 Rifle.The data works great in bolt action rifles also.I load 150gr,165gr & 180gr bullets but the best all around bullet for the 30-06 is the 165gr so sayeth many of the WW2 vets I knew

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I don't know the best. I use Varget and it does fine out to 125 yds with 165 gr bullets. I have two 06s so I wanted to get updated on this post and put in a plug for what works for me.
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I'm tellin' ya'll, try the RamShot Hunter, I am....Works great in my 25-06, figure it will be a great powder for the dirty 30. Les
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I'm tellin' ya'll, try the RamShot Hunter, I am....Works great in my 25-06, figure it will be a great powder for the dirty 30. Les
The smaller the bore gets, for a given case size, the better it burns slower powders because the gas has a harder time blowing out through the smaller constriction. May or may not do as well in '06. QuickLOAD says the ballistic efficiency won't get good until you get to heavier bullets in the '06, about 180 grains and up. The resulting velocity is excellent. Muzzle pressures are too high for the Garand, so this would not be a gas gun powder.

I'll add that with ball powders, in general, I have found it is useful to deburr flashholes, even for service rifle loads. It cut my groups substantially using Acurate 2520 in the .308 from the M1A. Doing it for extruded powders didn't seem to make much difference. Ball powders are harder to light and like the extra flame.
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