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Old 11-24-2009, 06:38 PM
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Where can I get good reliable information on how to paper patch bullets and load them. Would like a guide for the whole nine yards. Type of paper to use, max caliber disparity, load info etc.,etc. I don't need to paper patch bullets just want to try and learn as much as I can about reloading techniques before the big dirt nap.
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Old 11-24-2009, 06:57 PM
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Check out Wolfe publications back issues of Handloader. Ross Sifried had a pretty good article on this several years ago before he left the magazine.
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Old 11-25-2009, 09:16 AM
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Yes, you can buy the old Seyfried articles on CD from Wolfe.
Get the NRA's Cast Bullet handbook and the supplement. The articles by E. H. Harrison are the difinitive word on modern paper patch shooting - this is to say using smokless powder, and modern rifles with short throats.
Look at the paper patch bullets on the NEI Handtools website. I use two of their paper patch bullets in .30 caliber and they work very well.
Paul Matthews book on paper patch bullets is useful for the smokless handloader and is also available from Wolfe publishing.
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Get the NRA's Cast Bullet handbook and the supplement.
Any suggestions on where to find them, Slim? Mine were lost in a move a couple of decades back and I haven't been able to find replacements. Abe, Alibris, etc. come up empty.

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Old 11-25-2009, 10:53 AM
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I'll keep an eye out for you. I breath a lot of book dust. Here are a few books and articles for you.

Paul Matthews’s first printing of his book was titled: “The Practical Paper Patched Bullet” and then as the: “The Paper Jacket.”
Additional information is available in his book: “Forty Years With the .45-70.”

Handloader Magazine has compiled a number of cast bullet articles in the “Handloaders bullet Making Annual Vol. 1 & 2 from 1990 and 1991. Paul Mathews article on paper patching bullets for the 458 Winchester in the “Cast Bullet Special Edition” is worth looking for.
Wolfe Publishing also reprinted the Ideal Handbook of Useful Information for Shooters from 1894. You will find some good useful information in this book.

The NRA’s “Cast Bullets” and the “Cast Bullet Supplement” reprint the articles from Col. E. H. Harrison and as I said is the definitive study for the modern paper patch shooter.

The Cast Bullet Association has put out a booklet for its member titled: “Cast Bullets for Beginners and Experts.” This book was compiled by Joe Brennan who also has a Yahoo group named Cast Bullet Book which will give you some useful information.

The Paper Patch Bullet by Randolph Wright is useful for the basics but is tailored for the black powder cartridge shooter.

Handloading Ammunition by J. R. Mattern and the Complete Guide to Handloading by Phil Sharpe both will give you some good information. Earl Naramore in his Handloading Ammunition and the Priciples and Practices of Reloading Ammunition cover the subject in its basic form.

Modern American Rifles A.C. Gould pg. 282,289,291,
Keiths Rifles For Large Game Elmer Keith, 1946 pg. 284
For articles which have not been re-published in special edition books the recent one from Mike Venturino “Loading and Shooting Paper Patch Bullets” from the July 2006 issue of Shooting Times will give you some good information on hollow base patched bullets for use in black powder rifles.

I can think of a number of articles which are not on this list but here are a few to get your research. Dug these out for someone else a few years ago but cannot find the link.

Paper Patching Makes A Difference E.H.Harrison AR 3 72
Paper Patch Rifle Bullets E.H.Harrison AR 2 74 Paper Patch Bullets Come of Age E.H.Harrison AR 3 77 Paper Patch Lubricants E.H.Harrison AR 10 77 Bullet Patch Paper E.H.Harrison AR 10 77 Seating Patch Bullets E.H.Harrison AR ? Grooves in Patch Bullets E.H.Harrison AR 1 78 Papr Patch Bullets in .300 Win. Mag. E.H.Harrison AR 12 77 Paper Patch for Modern Magnums Raymond Page Guns 11 88 Paper Patches For Hot Handloads Ross Seyfried G&A 4 90 Water Proofing Paper Patched Bullets Paul Matthews Hdldr 4 90 #144
Paper Patching Grooved Bullets Paul Matthews Hdldr 1990 Bullet Making Annual
Paper Patch Blts. in Micro Groove Brls. Paul Matthews Hdldr 1990 Bullet Making Annual
Pure Lead Bullets at 1945 fps! Paul Matthews Hdldr 1990 Bullet Making Annual Paper Patching the .45-70 Mike Nesbitt Hdldr 1991 Bullet Making Annual
Squeezing Them Out Paul Matthews Hdldr 1991 Bullet Making Annual
Paper Patch Bullets Paul Matthews Hdldr 12 96 #183
Paper Patch vs Jacketed Blts. Al Miller Hdldr 6 94 #169 For Cast Blt. Hunting, Try The Paper Patch Paul Matthews HdldrDgst 1995
Handloader Digest 14th. Ed. Try The Paper Patch Paul Matthews ABC of Rel Recycle of above article Teflon Patching Johnny Breedlove Fouling Sht #69
Paper Patch Bullet Performance Paul Matthews Fouling Sht #78
Paper Patch Deer Ralph Sneider Fouling Sht #81
Paper Patch Bullets Paul Matthews Hdldr #183
Paper Patching and Rifling Angles Bob Woods Fouling Sht #126 - Unnecessary concern
Sizing Paper Patch Bullets UKN Black Powder Report 10 84 Lee Case Lube C.E. Harris Fouling Sht #59?
Uncle Hermann's Helpful Hints Fouling Sht #50 - Soften Patch Tails
Paper Patches and Pyrodex Steve Balthrop Fouling Sht #113
Paper Patch Bullets Jim Wilson Fouling Sht #114 = .308 Win.
Paper Patching Made Easy Ken Mollohan Cast Bullet #90 and #93 - Cigarette Roller
Glue on Paper Patches Max Leight Fouling Sht #37
Full Length Paper Patches in 8 X 57mm Duane Whithead Fouling Sht #94
The Making and Loading of Paper Patch Bullets James Hilliard Book 1997
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I found one copy of E. H. Harrison's, Cast Bullets, but the used book seller wants $143.79 (a nice round number) for it. Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook has only got one page on paper patching.
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Here is a good place to start:

http://www.lrml.org/technical/ammunition/patching.htm
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The Lyman Cast Bullet manual has quite a bit of info on the paper patching.
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I found one copy of E. H. Harrison's, Cast Bullets, but the used book seller wants $143.79 (a nice round number) for it. .
Nick, This is interesting. That works out $3.35 a page.
There cannot be this level of demand for this book or the NRA would have it in print.
No one in their right might would pay this price for a 43 page paper back book.
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Some book sellers are pretty optimistic.
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I found one copy of E. H. Harrison's, Cast Bullets, but the used book seller wants $143.79 (a nice round number) for it. Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook has only got one page on paper patching.
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THANKS MUCH, I have my reading cut out for me.
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