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Old 04-29-2011, 11:33 AM
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Has anyone had problems with Remington primers mis-firing/not firing. I have had several primers not work on some of my reloads. It is just the Remingtons too. I don't have any problems with Federal, CCI, Win. primers... only the Remingtons. Maybe Remingtons quality control has gone down hill or something.......
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:07 PM
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Could be that lot had a little harder/thicker cup than normal. My problems with 9 1/2 Remington primers were a certain lot had such thin cups it was burning through the firing pin strike dent and around the primer pocket to burn little holes in the bolt face. Heaved that lot. Since then, haven't had the same problem with other Remington primers.
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Old 04-29-2011, 04:38 PM
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I can't find a situation In my notes were I've ever used a Remington primer in a centerfire rifle. That in itself, mostly amazed me about myself!

Past that, I've seen much success with them in centerfire handgun loads. I use them real regular and see a few thousand in my inventory.

I wonder some if the US war effort(s) is affecting quality control in the ammunition plants? Troops deserve the best. Maybe the civilian market gets the "almost made spec" ones? I can't know anymore about that than you.

Maybe try them in another rifle/cartridge and see what happens?

"Some of your reloads"? Maybe just a "non-compatable combination"?

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Old 04-29-2011, 04:39 PM
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I have used and still use Remington primers for years.

I started when I was 14 years old and had just got into reloading. The town library was cleaning out their old magazines and I picked up boxes and boxes of American Rifleman going back 30 years.

Back then AR used to have detailed articles every year on the Camp Perry National Matches -- to include listings of the components used.

The one thing I noticed was that for 30 years 90% of all competitors loaded with Remington primers....so that is what I started using.

The only non-fires I have ever had with Remington primers were in a 338-06 I built on a 1903 Springfield. I got the rifle put together last year and was having problems with military brass necked up to 338-06, but not with Norma or Weatherby 338-06 new brass. I was puzzled, but decided to try and replace the firing pin (striker) spring since it was close to 100 years old.

That solved the problem, and now "I have no problem" with Remington primers. It was a firing spring issue - not a primer issue.

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Old 04-29-2011, 08:41 PM
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Yeah, I don't know what's up with the primers, but I have had this happen in my .308 Remington as well as my .270 Winchester.
I hunt deer, elk, and bear so I've decided to quit using the Remington primers and switch to something else. I don't want to be pulling the trigger on any of those animals and have a mis-fire. I would be ****ed upset if they caused me to miss a chance to down one because of a bad primer
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:54 PM
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I've been using Remington 9 1/2 primers in my .308 match rifle loads for over 20 years. Experimenting showed that they gave me the most consistent groups. But to answer your question, I remember back in the 90's I had a two miss fires in loads using those primers but that was it. Could have been that I touched the primers with case lube on my fingers...don't know. Hasn't happended since.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:21 AM
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Maybe Remingtons quality control has gone down hill or something.......
I have to wonder who's quality has gone uphill ?

That said, I have had exactly two duds in 45 years of handloading, that I attributed to handloading. I'm pretty sure both were my own fault, failing to clean lube off my fingers.

But I have had a couple rounds of "fail to fire. Both were bolt rifles that had been rebarreled, and I cured the problem by replacing the firing pin springs. It could be a spring on the soft side, and some primers on the hard side. ??
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:14 AM
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Out of a box of 100 primers between my .308 and my .270 I have had 7 (that's right seven) mis-fires and there is still more than 20 primers left in the box. I have Federal and Winchester primers that I am using as well and not one of them has given me a problem. I use a RCBS had primer tool and dump the primers from the box to the plate that holds them, never touching them with my hands. So there is no way I am contaminating them with oil or anything else from my hands.
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It depends what you prefer

I have been using Winchester and CCI primers for decades and have never had a problem. All the best...
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Old 05-01-2011, 04:19 AM
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It may be a bad lot or your gun may not like them. However since you have 2 guns with misfires I may be suspect to a bad lot. Contact Remington as they should replace maybe wanting yours back. I have done similar with a couple other manufacturers over the years some being the gun some being the primer.
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:20 AM
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Hey, if you don't want them you can just mail them to me!!!
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:10 AM
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I had the same problem with Rem Large Rifle primers for my 7-08. I loaded 20 and went to the range to check my zero. 5 out of 20 did not go off. I tried to shoot each twice to see if I had a high primer. I tried a second rifle. I set the box of 100 aside. I have used REM SR and SP with out any problem. Never had a problem with CCI or Winchester primers.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:49 PM
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As this thread is rolling along still:

For the guys with bum primers, are they recent manufacture?

I've been using a reserve of 9 1/2M's from the Clinton gun hater era. Bought a box of 5K, and I'm down to 2K.

Sadly, much from Remington has lost a bit of shine.
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As this thread is rolling along still:

For the guys with bum primers, are they recent manufacture?

I've been using a reserve of 9 1/2M's from the Clinton gun hater era. Bought a box of 5K, and I'm down to 2K.

Sadly, much from Remington has lost a bit of shine.
I'm using a stock of Remington 9 1/2's that I purchased over 10 years ago. I just recently placed an order for 2000 more and am hoping they're as good as the old ones but after reading these posts I'm kinda wondering what I'll end up with. As you say, Remington has lost a bit of shine. Recently I've read threads regarding the diminishing quality of their firearms and also how Marlin's quality seems to be on a decline since being acquired by the Remington group.
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The primers I bought were only a box of 100 when primers were hard to find just after Obama was elected. I don't remember where I got them or know how they were stored.
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Old 05-03-2011, 09:06 AM
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Hey everyone, thanks for all the comments.
The Remington primers I have been having trouble with were purchased in February of this year so age shouldn't be an issue!!!
I guess I'll just use one of the other brands and throw the Remingtons away. Since primers are so cheep I won't be losing much.
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