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Old 06-24-2011, 10:28 AM
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Anyone tried Tula primers? What U.S. brand are they comparable to as far as size, hardness, and power? I just picked up a case of them for small pistol, they are Russian made.
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:27 PM
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They're made in Tula, Russia. Usually have KVB numbers. Tula and Wolf are the same.

I'm wanting to try them, but haven't yet, so I'll pass along the hearsay, instead: The standard KVB primers are milder than U.S. standard primers. They have become popular with benchrest shooters for that reason. I assume their 7.62 and 5.56 primers are military types, so they would be harder and would be magnum primers. I don't have any idea how their magnum labeled primers compare to US magnum primers.

The only complaint I've heard about them has to do with the cups being a fraction of a thousandth bigger and also harder and therefore harder to seat completely than many US made primers. If that information's correct, then you may want to run your brass through a swager (even if it isn't military brass) just to be sure the pockets are big enough. I've seen threads complaining of misfires and others reporting no problem after firing many thousands. This is likely to go to the seating issue, as a primer not seated fully can fail to fire.
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Old 06-24-2011, 07:47 PM
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I have fired thousends of large pistal and large rife wolf primers. The large rifle primers have been verry reliable in many diferant calibers and the large pistals have only been fire in 45 acp, both have been flawless in function. Im not shure if ive ever had a misfire with a wolf primer, i dont like to give communist to mutch creadit but you half to give them credit where credit is due lol.
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Old 06-25-2011, 07:01 PM
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The only complaint I've heard about them has to do with the cups being a fraction of a thousandth bigger and also harder and therefore harder to seat completely than many US made primers. .
Thanks for the info, i ran a hundred through my loadmaster (38 spls) and even though the loadmaster primes on the upstroke i could tell they were larger as the force on the lever was much greater than when using American primers. I think i will hold off on quantity loading till i make sure these go bang.
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. . .i could tell they were larger as the force on the lever was much greater than when using American primers. I think i will hold off on quantity loading till i make sure these go bang.
No reason to think they will not go "bang". My only concern would be will continued use of these primers tend to enlarge the primer pockets? Probably not enough to cause American primers to feel loose when seated in the same cases. Besides, more seating force would tend to spread the anvil feet to compensate.

Hopefully you are not reloading with Sellier & Bellot cases as IME, their primer pockets feel snug when seating with American primers.

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Scott, I just checked my reloading logs and have used them in 22-250, 300 Sav., 30-30, and .35 Remington. They seat as normal as any other and I haven't noticed any difference in the pockets after de-priming. Of course I haven;t been scientific about it - just casual observation. Mine are Wolf, not Tula, but it appears reading here they are the same primer or from the same manufacturer.

Last week I did have two primers that failed to fire in the 300 Savage. I do suspect, however, that this old Savage of mine might have a weak firing pin strike, so the failure might not be due to the Wolf primer. In any case, I've gone back to CCI and WLR for that caliber. I've had no other failures before those two out of almost 400 primers used.
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No reason to think they will not go "bang".
My concern with them not going bang was because if they are taller than other primers i thought i might need to adjust my primer lever since there isn't much feel when priming on the upstroke especially with everything else happening at the same time, but visually they all look fine. I guess i could get out the micrometer and check that to set my mind at ease. They actually feel about the same as magtech primers when seating and i never had a problem with those.
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My concern with them not going bang was because if they are taller than other primers i thought i might need to adjust my primer lever since there isn't much feel when priming on the upstroke . . .
Did you run your finger lightly across the seated primers to feel if they are a bit high? I accept any seated primer that is either below or even with the case head. Should you find high primers, you might reseat them again and find they seat deeper the second time around. The priming arm that comes attached to some presses may not be pushing the primers up in line with the axis of the case so the primers go in at a very slight angle. My first press, a Lyman Spartan single stage tended to do that so I reseated any high primer that I found and usually the primer seated deeper the second time. Just a thought.
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