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Old 10-25-2011, 06:31 PM
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45 ACP carbine loads?


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I have a new HiPoint 45 ACP carbine and need some direction.

It seems to like hardball and has a "generous" chamber. My 230 gr load is plated boolits w/6.4 gr WSF. my 200 gr load is Lyman 452460 w/6.4 gr WSF.

W/the 230 boolit, everything is OK except for a little soot on the case.

The 200 gr cast, lotsa soot.

Seems the combination of generous chamber and sorta lite loads means ain't so good.

So...any suggestions?

Lots more slower powder?

Heavier boolit w/slower powder?

I would call this my truck gun aqnd will not be a hi mileage gun, but want some accuracy w/knock down for zombies. ) A 15 x 15 ringer at 200 meters would be great. Same at 100 meters would be acceptable.

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Old 10-25-2011, 06:39 PM
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I personally have never used that powder in .45 acp, so cannot really comment on that. I shoot a 200 gr. using 6.5 gr. Unique which is just enough to cycle my slide without sooting, but have loaded some up to about 7.5 for more power. If you have any unique on hand it's pretty quick and there's also lots of good said about Bullseye in .45 acp. Now the 200 yard with these seems a stretch. With the carbine you will get more velocity, but about 70 yards in my Blackhawk these start dropping fast. With the auto only 50 yards. I don't think with fast burners you'll easily make it without a serious rainbow to 200 yards. Have fun tryin though.
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Old 10-29-2011, 06:45 PM
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I personally have never used that powder in .45 acp, so cannot really comment on that. I shoot a 200 gr. using 6.5 gr. Unique which is just enough to cycle my slide without sooting, but have loaded some up to about 7.5 for more power. If you have any unique on hand it's pretty quick and there's also lots of good said about Bullseye in .45 acp. Now the 200 yard with these seems a stretch. With the carbine you will get more velocity, but about 70 yards in my Blackhawk these start dropping fast. With the auto only 50 yards. I don't think with fast burners you'll easily make it without a serious rainbow to 200 yards. Have fun tryin though.
I'm going to concur with Tacklebury. You're going to get a LOT of drop happening at 200m. Like two feet of drop or so. This doesn't mean it's useless at that distance, it's just that you're going to have to learn how much to adjust, and it'll be a fair chunk. Faster, i.e. lighter, bullets will mean less drop, less holdover.

Also, plated bullets are known to be inconsistent in pistol cartridge carbines. The better the bullet, the more consistent the result can be. I know they're more expensive than what you're used to, but try Hornady XTPs in 185gr. You'll get more velocity and more consistency.
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Old 11-01-2011, 07:11 PM
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I have noticed that a warm 185 gr jacketed HP load in the 1911 shoots way flatter than 230 gr hardball. Should be the same in the carbine. The slower powders will probably give more velocity in the longer barrel.
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:17 PM
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In 2000, I threaded and chambered a Shilen .452" bull barrel from Brownells onto a 1903 Turkish Mauser action.
I chambered with a .469" straight fluted reamer and a 45acp throater, to just fit a 1.275" dummy cartridge.

I load with 460 Rowland published load and then a little more.
I resized the loaded ammo in Lee Carbide 45acp sizer die with decapping stem removed. This die is .467" in diameter, and with spring back, the ammo just fits the chamber.
I shoot groups at 100 yards.
The rifle is too heavy to carry very far.
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What's a "boolit"? Akin to a "bullet"??
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What's a "boolit"? Akin to a "bullet"??
https://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&...UTF-8&q=boolit


My 45acp rifle likes 230 gr FMJ the best for 100 yard groups.
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